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From: SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET (Murph Sewall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: Binscii mess
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Date: 8 Apr 89 23:01:06 GMT
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>the key feature of binscii is that kermit is not necessary as far as
>transfer protocols are concerned.  A straight binary transfer will
>suffice since binscii can deal with different types of line terminators,
>(which kermit normally fiddles with).. for users of proterm, i recommend

Kermit can do straight binary transfers (just remember to set file-type
binary on both ends).

>using any of the binary transfer protocols (xmodem, ymodem) which are
>almost always available on your host machines (if not talk to your
>system administrator, because they should be)

I'd guess you've never used an IBM host :-)

Aside from the fact that IBM hosts only speak in 7 bit (mark or even parity),
they are EBCDIC - so there's no such thing as a "simple" xmodem type transfer
(that's why Kermit was invented in the first place!).

Also, IBM has a variety of "solutions" for letting MS-DOS PC's (and even
Macintoshes) speak to their hosts.  My experience with IBM system
administrators is that they DISTAIN the idea of anything as humble as an
Apple 2 connecting to their host (mine is astonished at the notion that there
are users out there with Kermit running on their Atari-ST's and Commodore
64's :-).  The usual response to an xmodem question is to get Kermit
(or an IBM-PC running YTerm or a Macintosh running TinCan).

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