Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!BUCLLN11.BITNET!WILLY From: WILLY@BUCLLN11.BITNET (Willy Trappeniers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Thanks Message-ID: <8904121559.aa16985@SMOKE.BRL.MIL> Date: 12 Apr 89 16:20:13 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 155 Dear Info-Apple List members, Thank you all for your answers about my request of Mon, 3 april 89. I give you an extract of the answers in order to help other users. >Could anyone tell me, if it is possible, how to contact directly from BitNet >somebody on the AppleLink network. I was looking for a gateway, but never >found one. ======================================================================== From: Murph Sewall This is bound to come up now and then because it's SOooo non-standard. The "official" gateway for BITNET is to: Send email to: XB.DAS@STANFORD Subject: user@APPLELINK Weird huh?! (but it DOES work). user%Applelink@Apple.COM will work, but it's a violation of proper administrative procedure. Given the oddball nature of the DASNET gateway, it's hard to be sympathetic about administrative rules. The DASNET gateway was introduced as an "experiment" (I wonder if anyone plans to draw any conclusions about its utility) before Apple was granted an Internet connection. ======================================================================== From: Scott Hutinger If you are on the Internet, send to: user@applelink.apple.com or user%applelink.apple.com@apple.com If you are on BITNET, but not the Internet, you must use the DASNET gateway at Stanford. Following are the instructions on how to do that. Sending to AppleLink from BITNET 1. In the TO field, enter the DASNET address: XB.DAS@STANFORD.BITNET 2. In the SUBJECT field, enter the AppleLink Address followed by: @APPLELINK So it looks like this: TO: XB.DAS@STANFORD.BITNET SUBJECT: USER1@APPLELINK!screenBits 3. If you type a ! after the address in the subject field, you can insert comments, but the subject line must be limited to 29 characters. where the USER1 is the address name at applelink. ======================================================================== 22 From: "DASnet" The following message arrived at the DASnet Dead letter Office. What you were doing was fine (to address folks at AppleLink), but it looks like your e-mail system does not allow the "@" character in the subject field. This is true of other BITNET sites also. So, we allow the "&" character as an alternative. For example: USER&applelink!Hello I see that your e-mail system does allow you to set the person's name in the "to" field. So, you might be able to use a new feature we are trying. You can put the DASnet address in the "to" field if you can get it in the following form: To: "USER@applelink" or you can use the DASnet Address equiv. To: "[DCGQAL]USER" I am told that many systems on BITNET allow you to set the name that is in quotes. We do need the quotes to be there. ======================================================================== From: "DASnet" Your messages with the DASnet Address in the quoted part of the "To:" address worked!! Great! You message to ST... on AppleLink was fine. The only problem is that I am not on AppleLink (AppleLink is just one of the many e-mail systems that uses the DASnet service), so your message to me did not have the correct address. The technique worked fine, however and the other message was fine (PS: it was delivered to AppleLink at about 10 a.m. PDT). Using the "to" field syntax, my address would be: "Russ@11.DAS.NET" or "[11RUSS]Russ" Were you able to enter the address in just this way, or did you have to do something special to get this format from your e-mail system? We would like to pass the correct info. on to the AppleLink support folks, who we are meeting with next week. I think using "to" field addressing will be a big help to other BITNET users who communicate with AppleLink folks. Thank you for helping with the test of our new feature that lets us take our address from the quoted part of the "to" field. ======================================================================== From: Willy Trappeniers To: "RUSS@11.DAS.NET" Thanks again for helping me to address people on the AppleLink via the DASnet gateway. There is no problem to use the new feature: "TO" field addressing from bitnet, also there is no problem to put the @ sign in a subject field. 1) To put @ char in a header field of a mail: encounter the @ char by "quotes ". Also we can put the name in the subject field and address like this: mail XB.DAS at STANFORD subject:RUSS"@"11.DAS.NET 2) Use of the new feature ("TO" field) a) With no names file: mail XB.DAS at STANFORD mailer ask: Name for XB.DAS your answer: RUSS"@"11.DAS.NET (don't forget the quotes) mailer ask: subject? your answer: ..... b) With a USER NAMES file set up: Create the names file like this: Nickname: RUSS Userid: XB.DAS Node: STANFORD Name: "RUSS@11.DAS.NET" Don't forget the "quotes " in the name field otherwise the @ char will not be tranfered to the field when extracted by the mailer. But... if you set up a USER NAMES file for one user at XB.DAS then all other users for XB.DAS need to be have a set up. You can not longer use the 2) a- way because the command: mail XB.DAS at STANFORD will always extract the name from that first user and no Name for XB.DAS will be asked by the mailer. ======================================================================== Thanks again to Info-Apple list and members. With compliments. Willy Trappeniers | /| / o / / | / Universite Catholique de Louvain | / | / / / / L_/ |/ |/ (_ (__ (__ / Faculte des Sciences Agronomiques _____Trappeniers____/ Departement MILA Hard-Software Design Unite de GENIE RURAL Tel. : +32 (10) 47.36.95 Smail : U.C.L - GERU Fax : +32 (10) 47.47.45 3, Place Croix du Sud Telex : 59037 UCL-B B-1348 Louvain-la-Neuve Bit : Belgium Acknowledge-To: