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From: jgreco@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Joe Greco)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Punter Info Needed
Message-ID: <1789@csd4.milw.wisc.edu>
Date: 2 Apr 89 02:54:37 GMT
References: <1937.243411AF@isishq.FIDONET.ORG>
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Reply-To: jgreco@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Joe Greco)
Organization: Not around here. Totally Unorganized.  A Real Mess.
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In comp.sys.cbm article <1937.243411AF@isishq.FIDONET.ORG>, izot@f171.n221.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Geoffrey Welsh) wrote:
]
] > From: jgreco@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Joe Greco)
] > Message-ID: <1759@csd4.milw.wisc.edu>
] 
] > Sometimes wrong, more often downright funny.  It DOES give a basic
] > understanding, however, and that is the only reason I keep it.  (No
] > others available...)
] 
]   Agreed, hence my "C1.NOT" file, basically an appendix of corrections.

Never seen it....  but as I said earlier, if someone is advanced
enough to worry about it, it is time for them to move on to another
protocol.

] > Steve is getting senile.
] 
]   No, he's always been extremely stubborn. When I met him (about the time he 

Oh, so he has always been senile.

]switched from Professional Software Inc. to Pro-Line), he was already in the 
]mode of "I do it *my* way because I know better". The result was literally 
]terrible word processor sales in face of more capable (and more public 
]feedback sensitive) competition.

Oh, that's right.  WordPro was supposed to be a word processor....  I
never did figure out any real use for it, besides using the manual to
prop open my door (Please note that I have SEVERAL versions, including
PET/CBM ones).

Steve's obvious superiority to the rest of us .... well, let's see.
So far, that has gained the computer world:  (1) A BBS program for the
64 that is very picky about disk drives and interfaces, not to mention
modems and interfaces.  BBS64 is THE only program I have seen to date
that will not work on my USR modems (but will work on a Hayes.)  (2)
An IBM release of his BBS program, which is presumably twice as picky
... I must be missing tons of stuff....

I at least have the decency to listen to user feedback and then act on
it or proceed to explain why it is not  practical....  and I have
always made an attempt to make my software as UNIVERSAL as possible.
(Works with RAMDOS64, no mods to the BBS, just a matter of locating
RAMDOS.)  Steve could learn.

] > Also stated that BBS-PC (PC-PunterNet, or whatever he
] > calls it now) will never catch on, and certainly never have more nodes
] > than PunterNet on the 64....  there are too many GOOD BBS programs out
] > for the PC that are so much less limiting, and that can work with
] > FidoNet.  How Steve expects to be able to compete with FN is beyond me.

]   I have tried to tell him this (I gripe especially about PC-PunterNet's 
]memory requiements, which prevent people from using it under DoubleDOS, which 
]many SYSOPs regard with reverence), and am presently on his "I really don't 
]want to talk to you" list.

As I've maintained.... Steve just isn't being realistic about PC-PN.
That is one of the reasons he is on MY "I really don't want to talk to
you, and I certainly could care less" list.  However, I did have a
merry old time giving him a rough time through network mail, making it
worth the $70 or so I invested in a program I never ran.

I cannot imagine how PC-PN can waste so much RAM, when a GOOD BBS
(TBBS, etc) does 4 times as much in less memory.
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jgreco@csd4.milw.wisc.edu		Joe Greco at FidoNet 1:154/200
USnail: 9905 W Montana Ave			     PunterNet Node 30 or 31
	West Allis, WI  53227-3329	"These aren't anybody's opinions."
Voice:	414/321-6184			Data: 414/321-9287 (Happy Hacker's BBS)