Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!mks!alex
From: alex@mks.UUCP (Alex White)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Re: MKS Toolkit question (Really the MKS Korn shell) CORRECTION!
Summary: Incorrect information given!
Message-ID: <753@mks.UUCP>
Date: 11 Apr 89 13:35:47 GMT
References: <465@thor.wright.EDU> <1040012@hprnd.HP.COM> <505@cpsc6b.cpsc6a.att.com>
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems, Waterloo, Ont.
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In article <505@cpsc6b.cpsc6a.att.com>, crs@cpsc6b.cpsc6a.att.com (Chris (I'm Outta Here!) Seaman) writes:
> This may seem like picking nits, but I just wanted to say (for the benefit
> of those considering the MKS Toolkit) that the sh.exe provided is NOT a clone
> of the Korn shell, it IS the Korn shell, meaning that it is a fully licensed
> version, and is considered (by David Korn) to be an official PC
> implementation.  At least that is the way he mentions it in his book
> on KSH.

NO!
This is FALSE.

The sh.exe included in the MKS Toolkit is a *clone* of the Korn Shell.
It has been independently developed entirely from scratch here at MKS.
It is *not* licensed from AT&T.

I have just looked up what Korn says in his book:
	"... An MS-DOS version of the KornShell is available from Mortice
	Kern Systems, Inc. of Waterloo, Ontario in Canada."
I guess from that sentence you could indeed get the wrong impression.

I'm actually surprised that AT&T let him put that sentence in the book --
when "The AWK Programming Language" by Aho, Kernighan, Weinberger came
out, AT&T said there was no way we could even be mentioned because they
hadn't evaluated our awk, and didn't want to be seen in any way as endorsing
it.  If you tick off ``MS-DOS'' on the tear off card in the back of the
book, Addison-Wesley forwards the card on to us. I really don't know why
thats any different myself, but lawyers will be lawyers.
	And in case you are wondering, yes MKS AWK is a *clone* completely
re-written from scratch.
	There is no utility in the MKS Toolkit which is licensed from AT&T.
We have written them all from scratch to avoid any licensing problems.
(Well almost all.  YACC was actually done at the local university (University
of Waterloo) and we license it from them.)

					Alex White
					An owner of MKS
					So I ought to know.