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From: hartung@amos.ling.ucsd.edu (Jeff Hartung)
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Subject: Re: more problems with ProComm Plus
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Date: 14 Apr 89 19:03:51 GMT
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In article <22942@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> cc1@cs.ucla.edu (Max Kislik) writes:
>Has anyone had the experience of trying to use VI on a host machine
>while using procomm or procomm plus on your PC.
>Does it so happen that when you move backwards inside your file using 
>esc and then h, the letters you moved over get erased?
>
>I am using the vt102 emulation on pcp, and I indicate that to the
>host computer when I log in by setting the TERM variable and doing
>tset afterwards.  
>
>This problem is such a pain I hardly ever call to the computers at
>school.
>
>Max.

The problem is caused by setting the backspace translation in your terminal
setup to DEST.  Use Alt-S to get the setup screen, select terminal setup, then
change the backspace translation to 'NON-DEST' instead.  However, you may have
other problems with 'vi' after that which I have not found very pleasant,
either.  For example, there is no way I can find to override Procomm's
translation of MS-DOS's backspace character (DEL) to ^H.  That's fine, if you
never need to use the DEL key on the machine you call, but I sometimes have to
call a VMS (ugh!) machine, which expects the backspace to be DEL, not ^H.  But
this has nothing to do with 'vi', does it? :-)

In addition, when I insert something into a line with 'vi' when I login from
home with Procomm, the display *appears* to overwrite, rather than insert, the
new text.  The only way around this I have found is to hit ^L every time I
escape from the insert mode to see what I *really* wrote.  (This is also the
case with your "erased" characters right now, by the way.  They're there, but
your display makes it seem like they are being deleted.)

I now use Kermit 2.32/A, which I got from SIMTEL20, instead.  It doesn't
translate the backspace, so I put 'stty erase ^?' in my .login file.  It also
emulates a variety of terminals, inclusing VT102, Heath-19, VT-52, and
Tek4010.  I only use Procomm if I'm not doing much editing.

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