Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!unmvax!deimos.cis.ksu.edu!rutgers!psuvax1!ehrlich@shire.cs.psu.edu From: ehrlich@shire.cs.psu.edu (Dan Ehrlich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt Subject: Re: 4.3 on the RT, request for problems, bugs, etc Keywords: 4.3bsd, PC-RT, bugs, non-support Message-ID: <4470@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu> Date: 14 Apr 89 15:01:14 GMT References: <19072@joyce.istc.sri.com> Sender: news@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu Reply-To: ehrlich@shire.cs.psu.edu (Dan Ehrlich) Organization: Pennsylvania State University, Computer Science Lines: 64 In-reply-to: brunner@joyce.istc.sri.com (Thomas Eric Brunner) In article <19072@joyce.istc.sri.com>, brunner@joyce (Thomas Eric Brunner) writes: ><> >I'd like to know what other users of the rt as a 4.3 platform have collected >in the way of unfixed bugs or undesirable features, as well as their experience >with IBM's support for the current release. > >I was asked by several people at the course I taught with Ron Natalie last >week in Boston (Network Operation and Security) where or how they could get >support for the product, and neither Ron nor I had any useful answers for >them, or could point out to them a list of "known" problems or "known" fixes. >I might know myself if I'd rt's here but my shop is mostly sun (100+) and >hp boxes, my sole rt is a six month loaner to a client site in Leavenworth >Kansas, and the local (Leavenworth) support for the product is non-existant. > The list of `known' bugs is much to extensive to include here. There is a very buggy C compiler (generates bad code, seg faults while compiling). The file system quotas do not work out of the box, we spent two days fixing the code. Also, the version of NFS that comes with AOS 4.3 is what was running on SunOS 3.2 with all of the bugs that version had still in place. The alleged support comes out of a group at USC called the Advanced Computing Support Ceneter (1-800-426-2272). I say alleged because we have had an ongoing problem with AOS 4.3 on the RT 6152 since last November. It took us until the end of December to convince IBM that there actually was a problem. We were getting "The problem can not be recreated here so you must be imagining things" as an answer from the ACSC. IBM's support of AOS 4.3 is much less than enthusiastic. There are appearently no plans for any future releases of AOS beyond the December 1988 release. It seems that IBM is too busy scrambling around trying to rescue AIX from death to spend a lot of time on supporting AOS. Another bone of contention is that it would appear that IBM has no intentions of ever releasing X11 R3 under AOS 4.3. The release avaible from MIT has massive bugs that make it unusable on the RT and IBM does not distribute all of the source code for the server. Of course the bugs are in the binary only pieces of the server. >Since I'm posting off of a host I don't usually use, my return address may >be munged. I can be reached at: > > Internet: brunner@spam.istc.sri.com > >I follow this list (comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt), so posting back to the list is >fine ... provided the AIX people don't get tired of seeing "academic" >traffic or "bsd-isms". I'll summarize and post in a weeks time anything I >think is generally useful. Gee, I had always assumed that the AIX folk were intruding on an AOS/BSD news group. :-) > >Cheers! >Eric >-- >Thomas Eric Brunner >(if UK, reverse domains). -- Dan Ehrlich | Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are The Pennsylvania State University | my own, and should not be attributed Department of Computer Science | to anyone else, living or dead. University Park, PA 16802 |