Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!apple!oliveb!3comvax!bridge2!ngg From: ngg@bridge2.3Com.Com (Norman Goodger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Mac pricing and the future of the Mac Keywords: .New Macs. Upgrades Message-ID: <558@bridge2.3Com.Com> Date: 6 Apr 89 00:04:11 GMT References: <12101@reed.UUCP> <1082@lts.UUCP> <11317@ut-emx.UUCP> Reply-To: ngg@bridge2.3Com.com (Norman Goodger) Distribution: usa Organization: 3Com Corp., Mt. View, CA Lines: 40 This message is in response to a couple of messages about mac pricing, upgrades, super drives, etc. The jist of one poster is obsolesence is in the mind of the user. If you need a new Mac, you'll buy it or upgrade. Another poster comes back and says that the Mac was started as a concept, and was not viable until the Plus came out which forced users to upgrade to a Plus or die....THere are some good points in each post..and there was to much stuff to quote. No Mac user has ever been forced to upgrade, there are people out there still using 128K Mac's with Write and Paint and its doing what they want it to. Other people are never satisfied and no matter what Apple did, it would not make any difference, they would find fault. I for one am glad that Apple has provided upgrades for most "every" System they've made. Unlike the "blue" counterparts where your alternative is a clone or a new computer, which either way is a new computer for $$$. While the new upgrade prices are hefty, no one will deny that, you get alot of performance for your $$ over the machine its replacing, in light of future system software or if you are moving from say an SE to SE30. I don't buy the "mac is a Concept" stuff, Job's original visions for the Mac do not qualify to me as a concept. Marketing scheme perhaps, but thats as far as it goes. The bottom line is you do what you need to do to get your work done. If that requires a new & faster Mac, you'll pay for it. If your Plus or SE does the job, why worry about it? BTW one poster mentioned something about Apple trade in's for older to newer CPU's, while Apple does not do this a variety of Dealers do. They'll give you a fair price in trade for your Mac to which ever new one you want. While NOT all dealers do this some do. Chances are you could get a few hundred more than you'll get in trade by selling outright, the opportunity is still there if you do not want to go thru the hassles of selling to upgrade. -- Norm Goodger SysOp - MacInfo BBS @415-795-8862 3Com Corp. Co-Sysop FreeSoft RT - GEnie. Enterprise Systems Division (I disclaim anything and everything)