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From: riley@beowulf.ucsd.edu (Chris Riley)
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Subject: Re: Red Ryder problems
Keywords: Red Ryder Documentation
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Date: 12 Apr 89 02:39:17 GMT
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nagel@wagram.ics.uci.edu (Mark Nagel) writes:
>That's a load of you know what.  When 10.0 came out, Scott upgraded
>only through mailed requests which required an upgrade fee even for
>previously registered users.  That has nothing to do with the (stupid)
>policy implemented soon thereafter upon discovery of millions of
>insects crawling around in ole' Red.  Just because you can get into
>the Round Table does *not* mean you are allowed to download 10.3.  You
>must (should) have payed the upgrade fee.  That's all academic of
>course, since he did place it in the downloads area and most people
>seem to fail to read that license thing there that says all this.
>
>Anyway, if you have 10.3 and no documentation, either you don't keep
>documentation or you stole 10.3 from the Round Table.

I hate to say you are wrong, but you are wrong.  The 10.3 updates were
available for EITHER $20 if you wanted a disk and docs or from GEnie to
be downloaded for free if you didn't want hardcopy. 

From GEnie by MACINFO [Norm Goodger] about the 10.3 updates:
>>PLEASE READ THIS -> There was, I'm sorry to report, quite a bit of illegal
>>passing around and posting on BBS's of 10.2.  If this happens with 10.3, we
>>will with regret (but without hesitation) return to the mail upgrading scheme
>>for all future versions of FreeSoft products.  Please protect your investment
>>by politely declining to give away copies of version 10 and Red Ryder Host.  

As you can see, there was a non-mail upgrading scheme for 10.3 in addition
to the mail scheme and therefor it is perfectly legal to download RR 10.3
from GEnie for free if you have already paid.  (There were many messages
discussing the 10.0 upgrade that only allowed mail upgrades, and as a
result the policy was changed.)


riley@cs.ucsd.edu
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