Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!topaz.rutgers.edu!witting From: witting@topaz.rutgers.edu (Paul K Willing) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Mac IIv - inexpensive Mac II box Message-ID: Date: 12 Apr 89 02:12:03 GMT References: <7718@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 54 In article <7718@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> chow@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Christopher Chow) writes: > In article witting@topaz.rutgers.edu (Paul K Willing) writes: > . > .THE IDEA: Take a Mac IIcx box, pull out the 68030, the MMU, the math > .co-processor, and any other expensive bits that aren't required. Drop > .in the standard 6800 and a regular Floppy drive. Actually, Apple may > . > .THE RESULT: A low cost (chuckle, ok, less expensive) expandable Mac. > .Idealy this sucker would sell for about what an SE does (maybe a > .little less and put it head to head with the SE). It would lower the > .entry level for color/greyscale Mac's, increase the market size for > .Mac II series expansion cards, and maybe help lower Mac IIcx > > Won't work...Color QuickDraw requires instructions which the 68000 > dosen't have. Anyway, the expense of any Mac II series of computer is based > more on its value than its production costs. (This also applies to the > "compact" Mac line: The SE is less expensive to produce than the Plus) > > Christopher Chow Ive wondered about the logic behind continuing the mac plus production. Keeping an anachronistic modter in the product line that had little in common with the rest. (different keyboard, mouse, case, at least!) I sorta hoped it was an attempt to remove old stock (Guys, we got .5 million of the stupid cases/mice that nobody in their right mind would want!) I would rather see them take marginal profit than try to write the stuff off. But to continue to produce it when it has reached the end of its productive life is silly. Why not eliminate the plus, lower the price on the Se, and lure thousands of IBM clone buyers to the Mac camp? As for the IIv, if the mac archetecture made support of color difficult, then they could still sell a cheap video card that could drive a standard B&W monitor. give people a choice of displays, etc. Apple probably fears doing so because the might loose the exclusive on mac monitors, but I think the lost market would be minimal. Just think how much nice a 12"-14" screen would be than that tiny little thing you have now. Or Publishers could get a page displays w/o wasting money on the silly little nine incher. You could reduce the clutter on your desk using the IIv's remote abilities. I could go on, but I don't want to bore you... paul -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Graphiti on the wall of civil rights organization in the sixties "There is a town in Mississippi named Liberty There is a Department in Washington called Justice" A more socially aware sort of .sig witting@topaz.rutgers.edu