Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!lll-winken!uunet!mcvax!kth!draken!tut!santra!kampi!jmunkki From: jmunkki@kampi.hut.fi (Juri Munkki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Mac memory speed confusion Keywords: Memory speed, Cache memory, Wait states, Virtual Memory, Help Message-ID: <21218@santra.UUCP> Date: 13 Apr 89 19:16:51 GMT References: <7400@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <1572@ccnysci.UUCP> Sender: news@santra.UUCP Reply-To: jmunkki@kampi.UUCP (Juri Munkki) Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland Lines: 24 In article <1572@ccnysci.UUCP> alexis@ccnysci.UUCP (Alexis Rosen) writes: >Whoever said the Mac II runs no waits? I _wish_ it did. Apple was inexcusable >cheap and lazy not to put a cache in. Not putting it in the IIcx, IIx, and >SE/30 is just sickening. Precisely because that $300 cache board (which would >cost Apple all of maybe $40 to manufacture on the motherboard) really does >make a 20-30% speed difference. I read that the IIcx has the CPU soldered to the motherboard. I hope this isn't true, since it would make adding a cache a lot harder and probably will cost you a new 68030. Can someone check this out? I would also like to hear the reasoning behind this decision, if they did it. Has anyone made a survey of video boards? Are there any affordable boards with an accelerator or faster RAM? When the Mac II was introduced, I intended to wait for DMA hard disk controllers and 34010-based video cards. The SCSI interface turned out to be fast enough, but it seems silly that the access time to the video RAM is 300 ns (from the point of view of the processor). _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._ | Juri Munkki jmunkki@hut.fi jmunkki@fingate.bitnet I Want Ne | | Helsinki University of Technology Computing Centre My Own XT | ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^