Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!topaz.rutgers.edu!witting From: witting@topaz.rutgers.edu (Paul K Willing) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Mac IIv - inexpensive Mac II box Message-ID: Date: 13 Apr 89 23:25:34 GMT References: <5102@hubcap.clemson.edu> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 45 In article <5102@hubcap.clemson.edu> jcocon%hazel.cs.clemson.edu@hubcap.clemson.edu (James C O'Connor III, 2846) writes: > > still sell, completely trashing your idea that they would be outdated) > > Maybe do both, calling the upgraded IIv a IIv 020 (aka the SE 030). > > Heck, we could continue this and sell a IIv 030, which would still be > > cheaper because it lacks a coprocessor, MMU, and FDHD drive. > > > > Also, from the demo given at the IIcx's introduction, board swaps to > > upgrade the machine should be VERY easy. > > > > paul > > -- > > Kind of hard to have a 68030 without an MMU, since it is built into the > chip. 68882's at 16MHz are available to the public at round $250. You > have to know that Apple gets better prices than that. FDHD shouldn't cost > to much more than the normal drive. It wouldn't be so profitable to > market a machine that cost Apple almost as much as a IIcx but not be able > to charge so much for it. Also, I understand that Apple gets their 030's > at '020 prices through a special deal with Motorola. > > Warning - everything after the second line is pure supposition. The way I understand it, computers tend to be a percieved value thing. Its less how much the parts cost, and more what you can get away with. By increasing volume, we bring down the cost of manufactering the thing in the first place, increasing margins on on the IIcx. Example I am familar with. Materials to make a large pizza cost about $1.50. We charge $8.00. Toppings cost us $.15, we charge $1.50. Most of our costs are set, employee wages, power & gas, etc. So we pull a $.15 topping off our large deluxe, but we subtract $1.50 from the price. But more people are willing to buy it. no? paul -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Graphiti on the wall of civil rights organization in the sixties "There is a town in Mississippi named Liberty There is a Department in Washington called Justice" A more socially aware sort of .sig witting@topaz.rutgers.edu