Xref: utzoo alt.hypertext:230 comp.sys.mac.hypercard:1760 news.groups:8762 comp.cog-eng:999 Path: utzoo!hoptoad!amdcad!apple!bloom-beacon!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!dewey.soe.berkeley.edu!thom From: thom@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (Thom Gillespie) Newsgroups: alt.hypertext,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,news.groups,comp.cog-eng Subject: Responses to Hypertext/Media.project idea Summary: yes , no , maybe and others Keywords: hypertext hypermedia projects Message-ID: <28705@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 6 Apr 89 03:50:45 GMT References: <1100@atux01.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: thom@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu.UUCP (Thom Gillespie) Organization: School of Education, UC-Berkeley Lines: 138 Hi, Below are the responses I received which seemed positive to the idea of a Hypertext/Media.project group. At first I was organizing the responses into yes , no and maybe catagories but on looking at the responses I'd have to say they are all positive in the sense everyone who responded is interested in good information about Hypertext/media projects. The differences are in how to do it. Many people suggested just co-op-ting alt.hypertext since it seems under utilized. One person suggested cog-eng as also under utilized. Most people can't see why I suggested it be moderated. I'm interested in an accessible list of designers and thinkers and their email addresses in some fixed spot. This could be an updated listing each month. It would also be nice if there was an index of keywords and titles and msg numbers for later reference. I suggested moderated so that someone could coordinate the effort. I'd rather have somethign I could respond to immediately. Thanks for the response and keep them coming. Thom Gillespie THE RESPONSES From vu0112@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu Sat Apr 1 07:31:36 1989 It sounds like a wonderful idea, but why not just co-opt comp.hypertext? If it isn't busy, make it busy. . .start posting there and cross-posting. It's the obvious right group. ******************************************** From bri@garnet.berkeley.edu Sat Apr 1 12:58:53 1989 the discussion group sounds good. i'll try to get a list of those speakers to you. there is a document put out by apple on hypercard design guidelines. i don't know if you've seen it, but it is pretty good. ******************************************** From tciaccio@shamash.cdc.com Mon Apr 3 08:02:59 1989 I most certainly have interest in a news group concerned with Hypertext/Media projects. In fact, I was about to post an article asking why there wasn't more activity in alt.hypertext. I am working on an expert system to screen service calls and have incorporated a hypertext-like feature in the system. The users love the feature and it is quite effective at 'hiding' information that may not be necessary to display. Keep me informed. ******************************************** From N51LS801%NCSUVM.BITNET@jade.berkeley.edu Mon Apr 3 08:20:22 1989 I would be interested in a group of the sort you described. Is there some reason that alt.hypertext could not or is very unlikely to function as you sug gest? Is the addition of a moderator the crucial improvement? ******************************************** From @dkuug.dk:cmm@daimi.dk Tue Apr 4 04:26:23 1989 I would be very interested in such a news group. From diradin@ctc.contel.com Tue Apr 4 08:42:14 1989 Add me to the list of people interested in a hypermedia design/use group. ******************************************** From: "Maria G. Wadlow" Hi, I am very interested in a newsgroup of this nature, I think it sounds like a good idea. I am working in a related area and a newsgroup like the one you describe could be useful to me. I don't think it needs to be moderated, but I don't feel too strongly about it one way or the other. ******************************************** From unido!cosmo!ix@uunet.UU.NET Wed Apr 5 10:49:11 1989 Hello, I would be very interested in such a group. I've studied adult education and I'm now into computers (as an editor of an UNIX magazine). Please respond to ******************************************** From pardo@june.cs.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 14:27:01 1989 >[User interfaces] See the newsgroup `comp.cog-eng'. ;-D on ( How about hypernews? ) Pardo ------- End of Forwarded Message ******************************************************** From jdevoto@apple.com Mon Apr 3 04:14:03 1989 Personally, I'd be reluctant to see a new group created at this time, given that alt.hypertext doesn't have much traffic. There needs to be some evidence that there is traffic before a group is created. I think a better idea would be for you (and anyone else interested) to begin posting to alt.hypertext. In a couple of months, if there is sustained interest, campaign to promote alt.hypertext to the comp hierarchy. (Historical note: several months ago, alt.hypertext did have quite a bit of interest. Then John Gilmore posted some nasties to the effect that people shouldn't discuss HyperCard in the group (on the grounds the HC is not "real" hypertext) and most of the discussion dried up, perhaps because people were scared away. I believe that some discussion would have the effect of restarting interest in the group.) From diradin@ctc.contel.com Tue Apr 4 08:42:14 1989 Add me to the list of people interested in a hypermedia design/use group. From trish@brillig.umd.edu Wed Apr 5 07:38:05 1989 It seems to me that alt.hypertext would be a good place to have it. Since very little discussion goes on now, that's all the more reason to change the format to include the stuff you suggested. Personally, I don't see any reason for creating another newsgroup when an existing one could (with tweaking) fit the bill. Whatever happens, I would be interested in participating in such a group. (I don't read the hypercard group because it seems to only contain 'how do I do X?' type questions.)