Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uflorida!gatech!ken
From: ken@gatech.edu (Ken Seefried III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: NeXt Performance/Price
Message-ID: <18420@gatech.edu>
Date: 12 Apr 89 12:21:38 GMT
Organization: School of Information and Computer Science, Georgia Tech, Atlanta
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>              Does anyone out there on the mac see any need for SAS or EMACS???
>NO WAY!  because the mac IS NOT A WORKSTATION!!! Remember that.... 

This is, of course, completely false.  Schulley has been calling the Mac
II "Apples entry into the engineering workstation market" since it was
announced.  Just because it doesn't perform like a workstation,
doesn't mean it isn't...

As for SAS and Emacs...

It is absolutely STUPID to make statements like that.  SAS availible
on IBM PC's and has been for a long time, and a LOT of people use it
there.  For many people, it is an indespensable part of their work.
You'd be suprised how many people have to do statistical analysis of
data.

And Emacs is just an editor.  What makes anyone think that you need a
workstation to run it?  Emacs, integrated into the MacOS windowing
system, would be a fine editor.  

>                                                                 and Every one
>would agree that the MPW editor or QUED is maybe not as powerful as EMACS, but
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>the people who use it get a lot more done [ie... it's easy to use...]
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This seems more than a little contradictory to me.  Emacs is more
powerful, but you get less done...

The problem here, as with every piece of complicated software, is that
to make the best use of it, you have to invest time (perhaps lots of
it) to learn how to use it.  Most people would prefer a simple piece
of software that they could spend minimal time getting to know.  Some
of us have more complex demands, and require better software.

A really GOOD Emacs user, that is, someone who has spent time to
REALLY get to know the package, will be able to edit rings around many
editors because of Emacs power.  A mediocre Emacs user is probably
better off with MPW or whatever.  

>
>BruceH@cup.portal.com
>"May the cube be with you"

Geezz...I hope I'm not going to start another editor war.  And this
has spread a bit far afield from comp.sys.next.  I just couldn't let
some of that rubbish go unanswered...

Follow-ups to comp.sys.mac or comp.editors?

	...ken seefried iii
 	   ken@gatech.edu