Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!husc6!rutgers!att!homxb!hocpa!rusty From: rusty@hocpa.UUCP (M.W.HADDOCK) Newsgroups: comp.sys.nsc.32k Subject: Re: ICM-3216 questions Summary: INFO-ICM status Keywords: ICM, 32016, minibus, MBIC, graphics, x.25, ICM-332, expansion Message-ID: <572@hocpa.UUCP> Date: 12 Apr 89 18:39:30 GMT References: <18414@gatech.edu> Reply-To: rusty@hocpa.UUCP (91341-M.W.HADDOCK) Organization: AT&T Consumer Products Laboratories Lines: 91 [Correct me if my info' is wrong or out dated. No flames! -Rusty-] Ken, Hopefully you'll have my reply to your mail by now. In there should be some more detailed info about the obtainig the various versions of Unix for the ICM boards. In article <18414@gatech.edu> ken@gatech.edu (Ken Seefried III) writes: >Other, related questions: > I understand that at one time there was (be still my beating > heart) a 4.2 BSD port to the ICM-3216 done by a Canadian > university (U of Toronto???). What is the word on this?? As far as I know you can still get it from them. > Is there plans for 4.3? Is there support for the ICM Ethernet > board (TCP/IP, etc.) in this Unix? When I have contacted them, the folks at UToronto have not had any plans to do a 4.3 port and UToronto's Ethernet support was for their own hardware - not National's. > Anyone running the GNU tools on an ICM board? (life wouldn't > be worth living without GNU Emacs) I guess this would be > either under System V.2, System V.3 (does this run? I know > National has it), Genix, or U of Toronto BSD 4.2. I know that GnuEmacs (v18.42?, I haven't tried the latest 18.5x yet) will run and reasonably well for an 32016. There were some hacks that forced the SysV version to `unexec'. These were posted in an issue of INFO-ICM. > > Is the ICM mailing list officially dead? I haven't heard from > it in something like 6 months. Course, with all the talk > about deleting slow newsgroups, we should probably funnel as > much traffic through here as we can ("But guys! This is > QUALITY, not QUANTITY!") The last issue of INFO-ICM went out to the mailees on June 23, 1988. Since then, while I have been in touch with some "members" of the list, `fe2o3!info-icm' has not received a single piece of mail. Now maybe it was because AT&T started their non-trafficing of 3rd party mail (there are ways around it!) or people just didn't give a hoot. I think it was the latter given the amount of chatter on this newsgroup about the ICM products. (SOAP-BOX-MODE T) Still the quality of the discussions and info' in the mailing list were second to none, IMHO. I enjoyed doing it especially when we had several folks from NSC's Product Development Center(?) joining in and we were getting needed answers to our questions. As for the hardware, I think it's been some of the greatest I've ever had. 'fe2o3' has been up and running for just over 2 years. It has surviving a move from Texas to New Joyzey and many a thunderstorm with hardly a breather. Uptimes were usually measured in months! until I started to tinker with device drivers. In that time I've had >> NO << downtime due to hardware failure. Any software crash was cured by the reboot. :-} National should be commended!!! (SOAP-BOX-MODE NIL) >As always, any help would be appreciated. I'm awfully exited to be >getting a Unix box with a REAL CPU in it for a change...none of this >68020 stuff...;') ;') ;') ;') Now, now. The '020 ain't that bad... unless you're writing a compiler and/or an assembler. :-) Still, it's far better than that Intel cruft I had to program. BLEAAH! Seriously, I'm sure my blood pressure took a dive once I quit writing 80x86 code. What I'd really love to have would be a '532 running 4.3BSD or Mach! BTW, what '532 products are available? I'd really like to know. If there's any interest, I still have Volume's I and II of INFO-ICM. Enough from me for now, I really should get back to work. Cheers, -Rusty- ---- Rusty Haddock {uunet!likewise,att,arpa}!hocpa!rusty AT&T Consumer Products Laboratories - Human Factors Laboratory Holmdel, New Joyzey 07733 (201) 834-1023 rusty@hocpa.att.com ** Genius may have its limitations but stupidity is not thus handicapped. -- Rusty Haddock {uunet!likewise,att,arpa}!hocpa!rusty AT&T Consumer Products Laboratories - Human Factors Laboratory Holmdel, New Joyzey 07733 (201) 834-1023 rusty@hocpa.att.com ** Genius may have its limitations but stupidity is not thus handicapped.