Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU!welch From: welch@CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Arun Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.xerox Subject: RIP Message-ID: <8904131939.AA11165@cheops.cis.ohio-state.edu> Date: 13 Apr 89 19:39:39 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 32 Folks, sit down while you're reading this... Envos closed their doors for business on monday, at 5pm PDT. We're really sorry to see them go, they had a lot to offer the Lisp community. Unfortunately, that's all the detail I can go into. They *are* working on a plan to continue support, so calling them or your sales rep right now will be pretty fruitless, as the plan hasn't finalised yet. For now, if you've got bugs/questions that you'd send to AISupport, your best bet is probably to send them to this list, or if you feel that it's an embarassingly trivial thing that "everyone" probably knows, send them to me and I'll either answer them or forward to the list anonymously. Carl Gadener will be on the 800 support line until things finalize too, but please call him for genuine bugs/help rather than to get the state/story on Envos, since that could tie up the line for someone with a genuine problem. John Sybalsky has committed to providing him all the development help he needs to keep people running, too. As I find out more on what the continued support will be, I'll keep the list informed. I really wish they'd made it. It'll be a poorer lisp environments market for the lack of them. ...arun ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Arun Welch Lisp Systems Programmer, Lab for AI Research, Ohio State University welch@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (614) 292-0352