Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wasatch!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!auspex!guy From: guy@auspex.auspex.com (Guy Harris) Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: VMS vs. UNIX s/w development tools - query Message-ID: <1396@auspex.auspex.com> Date: 7 Apr 89 06:44:14 GMT References: <401@bionov.UUCP> <810033@hpsemc.HP.COM> <1081@vsi.COM> Reply-To: guy@auspex.auspex.com (Guy Harris) Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara Lines: 15 >When System V Release 4 comes out, the /proc interface will make >it possible for *phenomenal* debuggers to be built It also makes it possible to reimplement the same old crufty debuggers like "sdb"; I don't know if they'll provide up anything better or not. A lot of the stuff that other debuggers have to offer that make them superior to "sdb" have nothing to do with extra stuff you can do with "/proc"; they have to do with additional information stuffed into the symbol table and better, more powerful, command languages. "/proc" makes it possible to do some more stuff, but there are a *lot* of improvements you can make without it, and I suspect a lot of the nice stuff from the VMS debuggers can be added without it. Some may have their complaints about "dbx", but I find it *tons* better than "sdb" - and it's implemented atop "ptrace" on most UNIX systems, at present.