Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!killer!rpp386!jfh From: jfh@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US (John F. Haugh II) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Re: Cabal Summary: The Leaf Cabal Message-ID: <14681@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US> Date: 4 Apr 89 13:30:57 GMT References: <3010@looking.UUCP> <63@norsat.UUCP> <288@ubbs-nh.MV.COM> <3031@looking.UUCP> <290@ubbs-nh.MV.COM> <291@ubbs-nh.MV.COM> <3230@ddsw1.MCS.COM> Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US (John F. Haugh II) Organization: River Parishes Programming, Dallas TX Lines: 43 In article <3230@ddsw1.MCS.COM> karl@ddsw1.UUCP (Karl Denninger) writes: >I backed a proposal for a new "cabal" of administrators, made up of all >administrators who care to be a part of it, with the only requirement being >that you are an admin. The proposal I agree with would also retain the >current news.groups as a discussion board for anyone to post to (thus, >hopefully, an admin would pick up the ball from users, and thus ordinary >users would have a way to submit proposals without "pestering" their admin). [ Don't trust anyone who calls a USENET newsgroup a `board'. :-) ] I'm all for _some_ collection of guidelines and Brad's seem workable, with a few changes such as the number of members. As others have tried to point out [ and Karl tries to here, sort of I suppose ], five is not large enough of a group. Allowing any and all comers to vote is also wrong, IMHO. The leafs outnumber the rest of us by large margins. Letting the site admins of bazillions of leafs dictate USENET policy will be no better than better than the current situation. >In the case of the proposal I favor, any administrator may "vote". In >Brad's proposal, only 5 people get to "vote". Well, my vote is for `Let them that pays the bills vote for the news groups'. Five is too few. Letting everyone with a Amiga in their living room [ I have a Wyse 3216 in my den :-) ] tell the net what groups to carry just don't seem right. How about 15 or 20, selected from the larger sites. Perhaps a threshhold such as 10 or more newsfeeds would be required for a name to be placed into Brad's hat with some number of names drawn at random periodically from the hat. This has the advantage of being a larger group of people who are both responsible to the sites they feed and the accountable to the people with the bucks. Comments? -- John F. Haugh II +-Quote of the Week:------------------- VoiceNet: (214) 250-3311 Data: -6272 | "Porsche does not recommend InterNet: jfh@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US | exceeding any speed limits" UucpNet : !killer!rpp386!jfh +-- -- Porsche Ad ------------