Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!apple!versatc!mips!prls!philabs!philmtl!ray From: ray@philmtl.philips.ca (Raymond Dunn) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Re: Cabal Keywords: newgroup, vote, control Message-ID: <433@philmtl.philips.ca> Date: 7 Apr 89 00:00:00 GMT References: <3010@looking.UUCP> <63@norsat.UUCP> <288@ubbs-nh.MV.COM> <3031@looking.UUCP> <290@ubbs-nh.MV.COM> <291@ubbs-nh.MV.COM> <7593@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Reply-To: ray@philmtl.UUCP (Raymond Dunn) Organization: Philips Electronics Ltd. - St. Laurent P.Q., Canada Lines: 44 In article <7593@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> vnend@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (D. W. James) writes: >In article <291@ubbs-nh.MV.COM> noel@ubbs-nh.MV.COM (Noel Del More) writes: >)I also strongly agree with Karl, that the ONLY requirement be that the >)individual be a site administrator. >)Noel > > Fine. Define site adminsitrator. > Exactly the problem. I believe it's not definable in a way which could achieve the desired results, without disenfranchising "legitimate" sites. I currently operate a 6 Mbyte 16Mhz 386 based PC under various operating systems, including UNIX, at different times. I chose to read news by using this machine as a terminal into one of our VAXen. I am thus not a USENET SA in my current configuration. I could just as easily configure this machine or another in my group, as an independant USENET site, and suck news and mail in from the VAX either over our LAN or over the PABX at 9600 baud, and provide a private USENET service to my group. I could even pass that data on to other machines in my department, so that I appeared on the maps as a feed rather than a leaf, with perhaps 20 or thirty readers. I could also chose to transfer this whole operation to my 386SX machine at home, with minimum effort, so that I didn't appear as a sub-machine within the same local network. > Which of these aspects, which of these different people, should >have a voice in the running of the net? > Which simple action like the ones above would I take to ensure a voice in the organization of the net? How many others would do the same? How many single user PC nodes would suddenly start feeding arbitron false data? -- Ray Dunn. | UUCP: ..!uunet!philmtl!ray Philips Electronics Ltd. | TEL : (514) 744-8200 Ext: 2347 600 Dr Frederik Philips Blvd | FAX : (514) 744-6455 St Laurent. Quebec. H4M 2S9 | TLX : 05-824090