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From: richard@gryphon.COM (Richard Sexton)
Newsgroups: news.misc,alt.flame
Subject: Freedom of hate
Message-ID: <14130@gryphon.COM>
Date: 3 Apr 89 00:27:20 GMT
Reply-To: richard@gryphon.COM (Richard Sexton)
Organization: Trailing Edge Technology, Redondo Beach, CA
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In article <8090@chinet.chi.il.us> patrick@chinet.chi.il.us (Patrick A. Townson) writes:
>
>We are talking about the government! And in the instance at hand, the
>government, via its agent Bill Verity at Penn State, have said they found
>the speech of someone to be offensive to their notions of what is in vogue
>at present, to wit, the lifestyles of homosexuals.

Tolerating homosexuals is ``in vogue'' ?

Perhaps we can look forward to the day when it's ``in vogue'' to
tolerate blacks in South Africa ?

>According to Verity, Whitehead's instructor has been notified of the
>heresy of his student. I suspect some appropriate discipline will be meted
>out to teach Whitehead a lesson about having thoughts like that in the
>future. Thanks to Mr. Verity, the delicacies of the Usenet audience have
>been protected, and our virgin eyes and ears will never again be violated
>by someone daring to preach heresy about homosexuals.
>
>And Usenet will live happily ever after. Once again, the imminent death
>of the net has been postponed for another week. We owe Mr. Verity our
>deepest thanks for protecting us by bravely taking the high moral road and
>cancelling out some poor stooge's Usenet account. 

Whitehead advocated killing homosexuals, and you're blathering about
free speech ?

Two things are guarenteed to get your net.access pulled. 1) doing
something illegal and getting caught and 2) doing something
so completely stupid that you cause hundreds if not thousands
of pieces of mail to be zapped to the powers that be at the site
where you perpetrated the completely stupid act.

So where do you draw the line Patrick ? What if there was an .EDU site
that spewed anti-semitic white power neo nazi garbage into
a few newsgroups ? Would you stand of for their freedom of speech?
What if they used it as a vehice to organize death groups ? Freedom
of speech ?  Even if the school itself did'nt want this to
continue ?

Of course if merely being a fucking moron was grounds to get your
account pulled, you'd probably be kicked off portal. Or is that what
happened ?


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