Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cornell!uw-beaver!blake!gwangung From: gwangung@blake.acs.washington.edu (Roger Tang) Newsgroups: news.misc Subject: Re: Expansion of rec.humor.funny to other networks Message-ID: <1441@blake.acs.washington.edu> Date: 3 Apr 89 03:57:27 GMT References: <439@corpane.UUCP> <3100@ddsw1.MCS.COM> <9773@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> <1989Mar16.165623.20831@utzoo.uucp> <487@tiamat.fsc.com> <749@aoa.UUCP> <3131@alembic.UUCP> Reply-To: gwangung@blake.acs.washington.edu (Roger Tang) Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Lines: 28 In article <3131@alembic.UUCP> csu@alembic.UUCP (Dave Mack) writes: >In article <749@aoa.UUCP> carl@aoa.UUCP (Carl Witthoft) writes: >>Heyhey. Dont' you guys know the difference between freedom of expression >>and offensive behaviour? Free example: >>1) I disagree that you should be allowed to say anything you wish about >>someone so long as you don't actually make criminal accusations. >>2) You dumb f***s have no *** idea what you're talking about. You are >>all probably Commies anyway, so go eat s**t. >>Now, should both of these examples really be covered by free speech? > >Yes. Sure. But a site also has the right to encourage the second person to exercise his right at another site. Or temporarily suspend #2's posting priviliges. Or put #2 on probation. Legally, the rights of a system administrator to police his/her site has little to do with the First Amendment. Only when an agent of the state, such as a state-run university, can we even entertain First Amendment arguements--and even then, only under certain conditions, depending on the terms access to posting was granted. Ethically and philosophically, of course, it's a different situation. But even here, I'm not willing to give any and every poster free and untrammelled posting rights. A poster must take some responsibility for his privilige (I repeat, PRIVILIGE); there's absolutely nothing wrong with a temporary suspension of posting privileges, a probation period or a restriction to local groups only IF a user violates standard user etiquette.