Xref: utzoo news.misc:2814 talk.politics.misc:24500 talk.politics.soviet:1049 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!bbn!oberon!skat.usc.edu!kriz From: kriz@skat.usc.edu (Dennis Kriz) Newsgroups: news.misc,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.soviet Subject: Re: Beyond Perestroika Message-ID: <16287@oberon.USC.EDU> Date: 4 Apr 89 08:28:52 GMT References: <3982@kremvax.mosc.cccp> <1658@orion.cf.uci.edu> Sender: news@oberon.USC.EDU Reply-To: kriz@skat.usc.edu (Dennis Kriz) Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 39 In article <1658@orion.cf.uci.edu> dlawyer@balboa.eng.uci.edu.UUCP (David Lawyer) writes: "From each acording to his abilities, to each according to his needs." -- Marx >> >This is a dictum of communism not socialism. Communism does not exist >in the USSR (and the USSR emphatically denies its existence both today >and in the past). This dictum has not been followed in the USSR.... Ah dear. The what exactly is Communism debate. If say a microbiologist were to suggest a genetic engineering project that failed every time previously and in fact produced a disease that subsequently killed millions, I doubt very much that he'd get support anywhere for it, even if he promised all sorts of miracle cures as a result. Even if it were tried, the public would insist on the very best safe guards available and there would always be grave suspision of the biologist's abilities/methods. Yet when the scientist is a "political scientist" he is not asked to follow any moral guidelines. A dam can't be built in this country without an environmental impact statement. But a politician can promote a program which will kill 1 Meg people and there will be some who won't bat an eye. This of course applies to all sorts of political philosophies. The point with Marxism is that for fully 1/4 of the world's population (ie those under Marxist rule) the very term "communism" makes them break out in hives. There's no point explaining that country X isn't really "communist" becuase it's a term as with as much loaded connotation as "nuclear" or "radiation." If you wish "save" communism (or the idea) then do what Madison Ave always does ... give it a less contraversial name. Repackage it (and please while you do it, take out the class struggle and the subsequent Killing fields). Just as Chernobyl and Three Mile Island will always be associated with nuclear power, the Gulag will always be associated with communism. dennis