Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!lll-winken!tekbspa!optilink!cramer From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) Newsgroups: news.misc Subject: Re: Beyond Perestroika Message-ID: <1202@optilink.UUCP> Date: 10 Apr 89 17:50:22 GMT References: <3982@kremvax.mosc.cccp# <1658@orion.cf.uci.edu# <2884@daisy.UUCP# <3764@ficc.uu.net# Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA Lines: 29 In article <3764@ficc.uu.net#, peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes: # In article <582@whizz.uucp#, bbh@whizz.uucp (Bud Hovell) writes: # # True. "Communism" was the ultimate condition to be achieved when the # # State had withered away (by magic, evidently, since I am not aware that Marx # # ever did really explain this one). # # He's not the only one with this blind spot. I recently read a book by Murray # Rothbard in which he described how the Libertarian millenium was to come # about. He'd built up to a pre-libertarian ideal in which libertaria was # protected from authoritarians by a feudal cabal of insurance companies. Then # he made the wholly remarkable observation that after the fall of authoritaria # the cabal would, "now that their purpose was served, disband". # # No explanation of why they would give up their power or anything. Just a flat # statement. Rather ruined the rest of the plan for me, it did. # -- # Peter da Silva, Xenix Support, Ferranti International Controls Corporation. As well it should. There is no utopia possible, because people are involved. Unfortunately, there are libertarian utopians (like Rothbard) who have delusions about human nature. Fortunately, most libertarians know better. (Of course, that's because most libertarians aren't college professors, like Rothbard). -- Clayton E. Cramer {pyramid,pixar,tekbspa}!optilink!cramer Abandon all hopes of utopia -- there are people involved. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer? You must be kidding! No company would hold opinions like mine!