Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!pasteur!ames!lll-winken!uunet!uvm-gen!banzai!jay From: jay@banzai.UUCP (Jay Schuster) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Re: The birds and the beaks Keywords: evolution, birds, beaks Message-ID: <1133@banzai.UUCP> Date: 10 Apr 89 16:13:59 GMT References: <404@censor.UUCP> <27216@apple.Apple.COM> <464@corpane.UUCP> <454@censor.UUCP> <9229@dasys1.UUCP> Reply-To: jay@banzai.UUCP (Jay Schuster) Organization: People's Computer Company, Williston, VT Lines: 18 In article <9229@dasys1.UUCP> aj-mberg@dasys1.UUCP (Micha Berger) writes: >> As a side note I seem to recall a short, fat, shelled four-legged >> snake with a beak. (Okay, okay, I know turtles aren't even close to being >> snakes. Call it post-tistic licence.) > If turtles DO have a beak, this bring up a sore point in Evolutionary >theory -convergences. Anyone want to build up odds that to phyla solved >a problem exactly the same way? Ever look into an octapus eye lately? Actually, from a molecular evolution course I took many years ago, in the segment on using DNA sequencing to determine evolutionary relations, I recall that birds were more closely related to turtles than to any other family/class/order of reptiles. Interesting, no? -- Jay Schuster uunet!uvm-gen!banzai!jay, attmail!banzai!jay The People's Computer Company `Revolutionary Programming'