Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ncar!ames!lll-lcc!rzh From: rzh@lll-lcc.UUCP (Roger Hanscom) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: FSF/AT-bus architecture Message-ID: <2398@lll-lcc.UUCP> Date: 3 Apr 89 17:26:33 GMT Organization: Lawrence Livermore Labs, LCC, Livermore Ca Lines: 36 In <2342@van-bc.UUCP>, sl@van-bc.UUCP (pri=-10 Stuart Lynne) writes: |In article <5768@ux.cs.man.ac.uk> dente@s2.uucp (Colin Dente) writes: | |>I must agree with the original idea - use of this bus *would* give access |>to loads of cheap peripherals - just so long as nobody suggests it should |>run MSDOS - I think I'd unsubscribe immediately if that happened!!! |> | |Just a note that various (Televideo and Zenith comes to mind) PC manufacturers |actually manufacture machines that don't really have a motherboard. It is |simply a bus, plus power. They implement the CPU on a card allowing you (for |example) to upgrade from a 286 to 386 just by adding a processor. ...........details deleted here........... |This might be the way to go in developing a low cost hobbyist machine. It |does allow access to a large number of very low cost cards. You can have a |10 or 12 slot bus and just plug whatever you want into it. The more things change, the more they remain the same! Sounds like the S-100 bus. A nifty idea from the past. Power supply and bus connectors on the backplane -- any board that conforms to the protocol can be swapped into the configuration. What a disaster for the planned obsolescence folks .... they wouldn't be able to sell us a whole new set of hardware every n years. Now, before I get flamed for suggesting such a tacky thing as the S-100 bus, let me say that I realize that it had (has) some serious disadvantages, but the **CONCEPT** was, and is, an excellent one. It worked because of its simplicity and the fact that it was a hobbyist bus, and did not get taken over by the hi-dollar market. Face it, buses like the VME, multi-bus, etc. could never fit this particular niche, not because they are inappropriate, but because the cards for these buses are priced beyond the reach of most of us -- for personal use. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- roger rzh%freedom.llnl.gov@lll-lcc.llnl.gov ucbvax!lll-lcc!freedom!rzh Upstairs, Over a Vacant Lot, Inc.