Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!srcsip!rutgers!att!cbnews!rshu@ads.com From: rshu@ads.com (Richard Shu) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Combat Simulation Message-ID: <5387@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 5 Apr 89 02:19:18 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mt. View, CA (415) 960-7300 Lines: 51 Approved: military@att.att.com From: Richard Shu In article <5332@cbnews.ATT.COM> Steven J. Owens writes: >Is there any good method for simulating a battle simply, without going >through everything at a tactical level, but giving each side more options >and detail than simply "1000 men on side A versus 100 men on side B, >side B loses"? If you include mathematical models in your definition of simulation, you should look at a posting I've submitted about mathematical combat models. >The perfect solution to this would be some sort of mult-dimensional >array with each dimension representing either a battlefield condition, a >goal, a strategy, etc.... and then to resolve the battle you cross-ref >all of the dimensions and arrive at an answer that gives both statistics >(X number of men on side A killed) and results in plain english (Side A >driven back from the defensive position of side B). >Naturally that's only a pipedream, but how close to that can I get? You should look at COL Trevor Dupuy's book: @book{QJM, key = "dupuy85", title = "Numbers, Predictions \& War", author = "Dupuy, T.", publisher = "HERO Books", address = "Fairfax VA", Year = "1985"} He has developed a set of equations based on a historical database of combats. I think that's what you want. Read it and then let me know what you think. Is it a pipedream to base predictions of combat results on historical data? Rich Question: Is there any relationship between General William E. Dupuy (the first TRADOC commander) and COL Trevor N. Dupuy? I assume not but it would be curious if there were. [mod.note: Col. Dupuy co-authored "The Encyclopedia of Military History" with another Dupuy, his father, I believe. I'll try to check at home tonight to be sure. Also, I believe T.N. Dupuy has another book, "Understanding War" on a similar topic. - Bill ]