Xref: utzoo rec.aviation:13309 sci.space.shuttle:2785 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!purdue!haven!vrdxhq!bobs From: bobs@vrdxhq.verdix.com (Bob Smart) Newsgroups: rec.aviation,sci.space.shuttle Subject: Re: SR71 to be retired October 1st, rumors regarding SR-71 Summary: JP-4, JP-5 Message-ID: <15751@vrdxhq.verdix.com> Date: 31 Mar 89 22:57:37 GMT References: <524@gonzo.UUCP> <1475@petsd.UUCP> <13987@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> <7855@venera.isi.edu> Followup-To: rec.aviation Organization: Verdix Corporation, Chantilly, VA Lines: 37 In article <7855@venera.isi.edu>, raveling@venera.isi.edu (Paul Raveling) writes: > > The real danger isn't the liquid, but vapors. Although > most fuels are more benign, watch out for JP-5 -- it's > volatile and the vapors are heavier than air; it'll > lie on the ground and wait for your cigarette instead of > dissipating quickly. > > This problem is why only the military uses JP-5, and I'm > not sure how much they still use it. As for buckets of > gasoline, that may be safe, but I'd prefer not to be close > if you chuck a cigarette into a nearly-empty gas tank. You are thinking of JP-4. The Air Force uses JP-4 which is very vaporous. It ie what is called a wide cut distallate. The Navy uses JP-5 which is a narrow cut distallate and therefor has a much lower vapor problem. That is specifically why they use it They have an aversion to vapors building up on confined hanger decks. I believe JP-5 is much closer to civilian Jet-A but being an ex AF type I only dealt with it in annual safety bbriefings and when one of our planes refueled at a Naval Base that didn't have JP-4 (some have a limmited supply for tenant units. The difference for us is the fuel gages read differntly on the two (different specific gravity). The Navy was real touchy though. If any JP-4 got into their fuel system they had to completly purge the system. To complicate the matter further NATO uses an even different fuel. They refer to it as F-?? (I think JP-4 is F-41 and their standard is F-40 but its been a long while) That we call JP-8 ( I always got that one and SR-71 fuel mixed up is SR-71 fuel JP-7? or am I reversed again(:-)) Oh well enough dissertation on jet fuel last comment though- when unleaded mogas was 1.00 a gallon in tidewater Virginia our squadron payed 1.55 a gallon for JP-4 to Base Fuels and we used ~3600 gal for each F-15 flight. Bob Smart (bobs@verdix.com)