Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!iuvax!rutgers!gatech!gitpyr!ccoprmd From: ccoprmd@pyr.gatech.EDU (Matthew T. DeLuca) Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle Subject: Re: What if... Message-ID: <7802@pyr.gatech.EDU> Date: 1 Apr 89 20:36:18 GMT References: <18730@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> <29106@sri-unix.SRI.COM> <7786@pyr.gatech.EDU> <369@cbnewsl.ATT.COM> Reply-To: ccoprmd@pyr.UUCP (Matthew T. DeLuca) Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Lines: 55 In article <369@cbnewsl.ATT.COM> sw@cbnewsl.ATT.COM (Stuart Warmink) writes: >In article <7786@pyr.gatech.EDU>, ccoprmd@pyr.gatech.EDU (Matthew T. DeLuca) writes: >> As a matter of fact, the tile repair kit was carried from day one. [...] > >The tile kit was not on board the first flight, and I'm not sure it was ever >carried on board at all. The problem with the first few flight was that there >were only two crew members (they always have EVA in pairs for safety), and >the space suits had not been flight-tested anyway. >Also, without the Canadarm or MMU, how would the astronauts reach the affected >area? Also, if the kit was carried on board, why has it never been used? >There have been plenty of flights with tile loss or damage, the recent >Atlantis flight even had a missing tile in one of the hottest areas, just >behind the nose cone. > >Also, the images of Columbia on that first flight were taken by an >Air Force telescope in Hawaii, I believe. It would be quite an achievement >to point one satellite at another, but then again, what do I know >about SDI... ;-) >-- Are you sure about this? I checked on this last night, and according to the article (Nat'l Geographic, March 1981), there was a kit, and it showed a picture of Truly (STS-2, I believe) in a water tank, practicing its use. It looked like a huge caulk gun with a flat nozzle. I couldn't find the magazine I was looking for (NG, May, 1981), which had a detailed account of the first flight, and included info on the tile kit. Considering the difficulties with the tiles at first, I find it inconceiveable that there would not be a tile kit on board. As to applying the stuff, all you do is step outside and put it on. The mechanical arm has been on board since day one, although it was not tested until the second mission, I believe. However, had there been a need for the arm, to apply goop, they would have used it. If it was on the far underside of the craft, they could have used tethers, like the old days :-) True, walks today are carried out in pairs, for safety, but that`s a luxury you have when you have half a dozen crewmembers. On the first flights, they would just have stepped outside anyway. If you drift away from the shuttle, the person inside just flies over and grabs you. There's a set of maneuvering controls on the mid-deck work station, so the pilot can fly over and then use the arm to give you a grip. That's one of the neat things about the shuttle. Finally, it is true the Air Force used a Hawaii telescope to photograph the shuttle, but the Powers That Be (NSA?) wanted to see about photographing spacecraft in orbit, so they flew a Keyhole over and did the job. IN William Burroughs' book, Deep Black, he goes into the use of the KH satellites for space photography. *Very* interesting, what they've been up to. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Matthew DeLuca : Georgia Institute of Technology : Remember, wherever you go, there you are. ARPA: ccoprmd@pyr.gatech.edu :