Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!ethos!mcdchg!att!mtunb!jcm From: jcm@mtunb.ATT.COM (was-John McMillan) Newsgroups: unix-pc.general Subject: Re: TCP for the unix-pc Message-ID: <1466@mtunb.ATT.COM> Date: 11 Apr 89 16:26:53 GMT References: <1892@umbc3.UMBC.EDU> <8187@chinet.chi.il.us> <7976@mtune.ATT.COM> Distribution: na Organization: AT&T ISL Middletown NJ USA Lines: 33 In article <7976@mtune.ATT.COM> rkh@mtune.UUCP (Robert Halloran) writes: >In article <8187@chinet.chi.il.us> les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) writes: ... >> The main problem with them is that the >>available software is for URP (AT&T proprietary) protocol while the >>other AT&T machines are changing to OSI protocols so you can't mix >>7300's and 6386's on the same net. ... >Correction to your comments above: it is true that the other AT&T systems >are moving to ISO protocols, but they CAN share a wire with URP-based >systems; they just don't understand one another. > > Bob Halloran 1) Bob is right, as usual ;-) 2) Bob hasn't mentioned that AT&T, INTERNALLY, runs many [most?] of its 3B2 and 6386 systems with software that supports BOTH URP & ISO. (He KNOWS this... but is smart enough to NOT mention it: I'm NOT ;-) The point is: there is inside & outside pressure for AT&T to release the dual protocol software as a product -- at least I think that's still alive -- and there is as yet little isolation of 3B1's WITHIN AT&T. There is just the tedium of knowing which of your clients are URP or ISO talkers. 3) True isolation occurs as StarLAN'ers switch from the 1MB hardware to the 10MB hardware: there is no (known-to-me) means of running the 1MB hardware on a 10 MB net. John (oops, I shouldn't a said that) McMillan -- att!mtunb!jcm