Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!agate!helios.ee.lbl.gov!nosc!humu!uhccux!lee From: lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Greg Lee) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Free will and responsibility (was Re: Making fires...) Message-ID: <3850@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> Date: 27 Apr 89 02:53:21 GMT References: <10333@ihlpb.ATT.COM> Organization: University of Hawaii Lines: 21 From article <10333@ihlpb.ATT.COM>, by arm@ihlpb.ATT.COM (Macalalad): " In article <17473@cup.portal.com> dan-hankins@cup.portal.com (Daniel B Hankins) writes: " >... Once in full swing, such approaches to suppressing " >behavior unwanted by society would lead to far more effective deterrents to " >crime. " " This brings to mind a few books like A Clockwork Orange, Brave New World, " and 1984. In all of these books, scientific advances enabled governments " to control and modify the behavior of its citizens. " " That someone could even suggest that this is a good thing to do shocks " me. ... Whether one judges it a good thing depends on what one compares it to. If I understood the argument in Skinner's _Beyond freedom and dignity_ (and I'm not sure I did), it was that our behavior *is* controlled, and will come to be more controlled in the future. By an LA street gang boss, a General Foods executive, a political demagogue, Rajneesh -- but the trick is to try to name your poison. Greg, lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu