Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uflorida!gatech!emory!boothe From: boothe@mathcs.emory.edu (Ronald Boothe {guest}) Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets Subject: Re: wanted: neurobiology references Message-ID: <3971@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> Date: 23 Apr 89 14:17:12 GMT References: <4486@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu> <17450@cup.portal.com> <17490@cup.portal.com> Reply-To: boothe@emory.UUCP (Ronald Boothe {guest}) Organization: Emory University Lines: 36 In article <17490@cup.portal.com> mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) writes: >> I would expect synaptic weights to be proportional to the axon circumference >> where it joins the cell body, but I have no evidence to support that belief. > >Opps, I meant "dendrite circumference", of course. And now that I think >about it, that's wrong too. I was taught that there are two kinds of >conduction in nerves cells, "electrotonic" and "propagative". The former >might be described as an electrolytic and resistive form of conduction, >while the latter involves action potentials originating in the axon hillock. > For most neurons in brain you can probably ignore propagative conduction by dendrites and just consider the effects of electrotonic conduction. This conduction will be dissipated by the space constant of the cell membrane and therefore the input of each synaptic input needs to be weighted by its distance from the axon hillock. In addition, many dendrites have branches and varicosities which can alter the resistance to current flow along the dendrite, so the geometry of the dendrites also must be taken into account. Finally, a majority of excitatory synapses onto dendrites contact specialized anatomical structures called spines. These spines are shaped like mushrooms with the thin stalk projecting from the dendrite, and the synaptic input coming onto the head of the spine. This long thin stalk provides resistance to current flow, so the weight of each synaptic input is also influenced by the length and diameter of the stalk (some think a good biological mechanism for altering the weights of specific inputs is to change the shapes of the spines). There is lots of recent work on this topic in the neuroscience literature. I don't recall specific references right now, but some of the influentual early work was done by W. Rall. A check of the citation index to see who is making reference to the old Rall papers should turn up current literature. -- Ronald Boothe {guest} Emory University, Atlanta, GA ARPA, CSNET: boothe@emory.ARPA BITNET: boothe@emory UUCP: { sun!sunatl, gatech }!emory!boothe