Path: utzoo!dptcdc!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!dg!rec From: rec@dg.dg.com (Robert Cousins) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: to graphics processor or not to graphics processor Keywords: graphics processor Message-ID: <130@dg.dg.com> Date: 17 Apr 89 13:06:00 GMT References: <28930@apple.Apple.COM> Reply-To: rec@dg.UUCP (Robert Cousins) Distribution: usa Organization: Data General, Westboro, MA. Lines: 40 In article <28930@apple.Apple.COM> jrg@Apple.COM (John R. Galloway) writes: > Now I see there is another example. The Data General Maverick 88000 based >workstation uses an NEC 72120 (whatever that is) for mono and a custom >gate array (whatever_that_is**2) for color. Any DG engineers out there who >would like to discuss why they chose to do so? > >apple!jrg John R. Galloway, Jr. contract programmer, San Jose, Ca > >These are my views, NOT Apple's, I am a GUEST here, not an employee!! Yes, we choose to use graphics coprocessors on our AViiON line of workstations for several reasons: 1. Lawrence's Law: There are only two ways to speed up a computer: build it out of faster parts or do more than one thing at a time. A coprocessor allows you to do more than one thing at a time. 2. Sure the 88000 is fast and can do graphics operations very quickly (faster than most graphics coprocessors in fact). However, more and more workstation applications are of the form "compute, draw, compute, draw . . . ." where the parallelism gain is substantial if draw and compute can be overlapped. 3. Most previous graphics architectures assume relatively weak CPUs and relatively more powerful graphics hardware or the extreme opposite of relatively powerful CPUs and totally brain damaged graphics hardware (dumb frame buffer). The newer, faster CPUs like the 88100 make intermediate balancing easy. 4. Cost. A proper choice of graphics subsystems allows not only the cost to be reduced but also the power and space -- all of which has impact on the retail cost. I think it safe to say that we did a pretty good job. There aren't any machines that I know of that can match the AViiON line in power (CPU or graphics) in the price range. Robert Cousins Department Manager, Workstation Development, Data General Corporation Speaking for myself alone.