Path: utzoo!dptcdc!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!bionet!agate!ucbvax!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!unmvax!deimos.cis.ksu.edu!rutgers!att!mtunb!dmt From: dmt@mtunb.ATT.COM (Dave Tutelman) Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d Subject: Re: Hackers, origin of term Keywords: hacker Message-ID: <1471@mtunb.ATT.COM> Date: 18 Apr 89 16:41:45 GMT References: <2115NU113738@NDSUVM1> <98299@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> <2236@wa4mei.UUCP> <3299@ddsw1.MCS.COM> Reply-To: dmt@mtunb.UUCP (Dave Tutelman) Organization: AT&T Bell Labs - Middletown, NJ Lines: 24 In article <3299@ddsw1.MCS.COM> benfeen@ddsw1.UUCP (Ben Feen) writes: >By original definition, a hacker is a person who takes a piece of >doggie-dirties program and changes it. There are also electronics >hackers (I am one - I fixed a radio by dragging a wrench across the connect- >tions until it worked, then soldered the connections together.) >There are hackers in every field where makeshift fixes can be done. Hardly the "original" definition. In fact, that's one I never heard. A discussion of the REAL origin seems to take place annually on the net. While there's some variation, those with long memories know the term as a compliment. > My dad forbid me from downloading until I showed him >news.important articles that explained it. Sorry, Ben, but if your dad could forbid you from doing anything while news.important was in existence (or even popular use of the term "download"), you weren't even born when "hacker" originated. (I encountered it in the early-mid '60s.) +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dave Tutelman | | Physical - AT&T Bell Labs - Middletown, NJ | | Logical - ...att!mtunb!dmt | | Audible - (201) 957 6583 | +---------------------------------------------------------------+