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From: jmd@swbatl.UUCP (03)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: objective c
Message-ID: <520@swbatl.UUCP>
Date: 17 Apr 89 13:51:57 GMT
References: <WIENER.89Apr6215241@stout.stout.UCAR.EDU> <6590095@hplsla.HP.COM> <2240@mister-curious.sw.mcc.com>
Reply-To: jmd@swbatl.UUCP (Jim Doherty 5-0804 11-Y-03)
Organization: Southwestern Bell Tele. Co. - Advanced Technology Lab - St. Louis
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In article <2240@mister-curious.sw.mcc.com> loo@mister-curious.sw.mcc.com (Joel Loo) writes:
>In article <6590095@hplsla.HP.COM> jima@hplsla.HP.COM (Jim Adcock) writes:
>>So I couldn't help comparing the published numbers to
>>a simple "Integer" class I wrote in C++:
>>
>> [ ... comparison of C++ and Obj-C ... ]
>>
>>It still seems safe to say that C++ remains many, many times 
>>faster than ObjC 4.0. 
>
>This is not a fair comparison. You might as well compare C with Lisp and
>publish similar figures. Programs in C++ are compiled into runnable codes
>similar to compiled codes of other compiler languages, most of its 
>objectiveness is lost after compilation. 
>Objective-C retains its objectiveness even after compilation. This
>implies more runtime functionalities in Obj-C and thus 'poorer' performance.
>
>BTW is there any Obj-C newsgroup or is there anybody interested in Obj-C
>at all? It scares me to see the whole world going for C++ when I tested
>both and voted for Obj-C. (I am wandering whether my judgement was wrong.)

Yes, there are lots of major players in the market place using Objective 'C'
including the following. 
		
		1. Southwestern Bell Corporation
		2. IBM ( signed world wide liscense)
		3. NeXT computing (Steve Jobs new box)
		4. Erickson Switch (doing real time in Obj 'C')
		5. U. S. West Advanced Technology.
	This list is by no means all inclusive, but does give an example
of some of the vendors I am familiar with. BTW I am interested in OBJ 'C'
news group.

>
>(No flame please, tell my mistakes gently)
>-------------------
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>[ Disclaimer: The above article/signature reflects only my own opinion; 
>my employer has nothing to do with it. ]


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