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From: art@buengc.BU.EDU (A. R. Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.lsi,comp.lsi.cad,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Latest Vivid features?
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Date: 21 Apr 89 15:28:59 GMT
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In article <8904202001.AA03661@cunixd.cc.columbia.edu> gld@CUNIXD.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Gary L Dare) writes:
>I've just started working with VIVID 1.3 from MCNC and would like to
>import .CIF files for editing and further work.  It seems that my
>version can only read .CIF into a compacted mask-layout display via
>LLAMA.  Are there any utilities that can take a LLAMA display and
>translate it into ABCD (A Better Circuit Description)?

Interesting you should ask.  I wanted to do this a couple of years ago,
for the same reasons you do.  I called MCNC and asked them about doing it
and they said, "Why would you want to do that?"  I tried to explain but
they didn't think it was such a good idea.

I personally think Vivid is a great CAD system but the rest of the world
(read marketplace) didn't agree with me.  MCNC has dropped support for
Vivid, they said there will never be a version 1.4 or 2.x.  This is really
too bad, but under the circumstances I can't see putting effort into
something that's not going anywhere.

/Al Thompson