Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!pacbell!pbhyf!rob
From: rob@PacBell.COM (Rob Bernardo)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: outlogging of mail messages
Keywords: outlogging mail elm
Message-ID: <5110@pbhyf.PacBell.COM>
Date: 24 Apr 89 21:16:40 GMT
References: <448@wubios.wustl.edu> <5096@pbhyf.PacBell.COM> <100747@sun.Eng.Sun.COM>
Reply-To: rob@PacBell.COM (Rob Bernardo)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
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In article <100747@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> plocher@sun.UUCP (John Plocher) writes:
++---- In article <5096@pbhyf.PacBell.COM> Rob Bernardo writes:
+| +---- In article <448@wubios.wustl.edu> David J. Camp writes:
+| |  Is there a way ... messages all be filed in a single file again?
+| +----
+| Yes. RTFM.
++----
+
+Am I the only one out here who is getting the impression that Rob just
+doesn't like end users?  This message COULD have included the answer
+to David's question, but as it was posted it has a 0% signal to noise ratio!

You've taken my posting the wrong way. What I intended to convey was
that the issue was covered quite well in the documentation. (I don't
consider "RTFM" as an angry response - it's just a set phrase, which
to me [and others] means that the documentation covers the issue well.) As
posting costs $$, it saves money to point someone to the fuller authority
rather than post or paraphrase the whole section of the documentation
that's relevant.

+  To this goal we are
+trying to offer our best CONSTRUCTIVE criticism.  If you take this as a
+personal insult (as you seem to) then may I suggest that you find someone
+else to be the liason between the developers and the users?

Hm. I'm confused here. David's posting wasn't a criticism; it was a 
request for information. And I wasn't insulted by it. You've 
misinterpreted intentions here. It would behoove us who wish to use 
this group for clear communication to remove whatever is stuck in 
their craw (yours truly included :-) ) and relax. From my viewpoint 
as an elm developer, this group is gaining the tenor of a lynch mob. 

As I've said before, it would benefit users of elm 2.2
to read the reference guide as it explains quite well (IMHO) some of 
the new features and heretofore undocumented features of elm. 

Also, I'm just posting here just like anyone else. I'm not a liason for
the development team nor am a spokesperson for the team. The views I express
are solely my own.
-- 
Rob Bernardo, Pacific Bell UNIX/C Reusable Code Library
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