Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!unmvax!pprg.unm.edu!hc!lll-winken!uunet!imspw6!bob From: bob@imspw6.UUCP (Bob Burch) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: New morality of Communications/Computer Science etc. Message-ID: <232@imspw6.UUCP> Date: 15 Apr 89 03:28:57 GMT Organization: IMS, Rockville, MD Lines: 79 From Ted Holden, HT Enterprises: ........................................................ From: Clayton Cramer: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA >One good reason: there are a lot of people who feel, just as strongly, >that magazines like Playboy and Penthouse should be prohibited because >they provide the same unrealistic, non-consequential view of sex. >Do we really want to repeal the First Amendment? Whatever the framers of the amendment DID have on their minds, I know for damned sure it wasn't TV. There comes a point at which you have to take a look around you and deal with reality as it is now, and not as it was 200 years ago. Playboy doesn't have a push-button, 24-hour-a-day point of entry into all of our homes which we eliminate only by relinquishing access to our news media as well as other, more welcome and civilized fare. Your starting point for TV isn't Jefferson or Hamilton; it's McLuhan and Allan Bloom. I would like to think that this point of entry into my home and the homes of my neighbors was a privilege, which I might have some say in whether a company was using in a reasonable manner. My reaction to DC's WTTG showing WWF wrestling, for example, would ideally be to remove the privilege and the bandwidth from WTTG and give them to some other company which promised to do better. I'm sure such a company would not be long in forthcoming. You end up having to make choices. I can look at the books which European children read, and at the TV shows and video games which American children watch and play, the music they listen to and at what volumes, and a hundred other things related to culture or, more properly, the near-total lack thereof amongst the young in this country, and I don't need to be Albert Einstein to figure out what America's position in the natural order is going to be ten years down the road; it's not going to be the top of the heap. It all depends on how thrilled you are about the prospects of living in the third world. We've got generations of kids being RAISED by TV sets, which would be bad enough under any circumstances, but they apparently aren't even watching real shows anymore; it's mostly these video atrocities which flicker from scene to scene ten times a second. Friends who teach five and six and seven year olds tell me they are seeing kids whose attention spans are exactly what you would expect from this, about one tenth of one second. They tell me these kids have to be protected from holding their mouths open in the rain and drowning, like turkeys. I'm not really sure whether this discussion belongs in comp.misc or one of soc. groups (which the IMS site doesn't get), but I believe that the lines of demarcation between television and computers are getting a little bit fuzzy now and will continue to get fuzzier in the near future. I believe that anything which is a TV problem now will probably be a TV and computer problem in five years. I find it a particularly appalling thought that someone with skills similar to my own actually PROGRAMMED the hideous arcade games which I observe in the 7-11 stores and other public places: the ones in which people beat each other to death with sledge-hammers or which pierce the air with the death screams of some bit-blit karate fighter every 5 seconds. I can't picture anybody actually PLAYING one of those games longer than five minutes, much less the lengths of time which kids actually DO play them, without suffering permanent brain damage. It is very clear to me at least, that the world would profit from having the perpetrators of these abominations given some kind of a serious lecture on some kind of a new morality regarding communications/culture/computer- science etc., possibly at gunpoint. The only other way to deal with this kind of problem which I could think of would resemble what the naturalists are doing when they buy up lands to protect them from yuppies and developers, as several posters on this topic have recently noted: this would involve some humanitarian group simply purchasing the arcade game software and burying it. Ted Holden, HTE