Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!purdue!decwrl!decvax!ima!spdcc!dyer From: dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix Subject: Re: Are the conferences being held too often? Message-ID: <3091@ursa-major.SPDCC.COM> Date: 25 Apr 89 00:46:16 GMT References: <1648@ucsd.EDU> Reply-To: dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA Lines: 34 In article <1648@ucsd.EDU> brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) writes: >I just KNOW I'm going to get flamed for this.... >I wonder if perhaps the USENIX conferences are being held too often - it >seems to me that what with the main conferences about 6 months apart, >and all the special workshops, etc., doesn't it seem that there just >aren't enough GOOD papers being written out there to ensure that each >conference has a full worthwhile technical program. No, you're just saying something which has needed to be said for a while. It's even been said before. I've come from the last two conferences quite disappointed in the overall content of the technical sessions. In contrast, the tutorials have been very good sources of specialized information. Of course, this is no reflection on the program committees, which can only use what is submitted. It seems to be that the original USENIX meetings (Cambridge 77, New York 78 Boulder and Toronto 1979) were very valuable forums for exchanging infor- mation you simply couldn't get anywhere else. These days, with the net, commercial UNIX periodicals (despite what you think of their quality), competition from UNIforum, and other sources, the semiannual USENIX conferences have become simply an excuse to party with other hackers. Even this loses a bit of its charm when you start paying for the privilege yourself. :-) I'm not sure what the "answer" is. For myself, it's deciding to only attend one (if that) per year. I would support a single general meeting, with frequent and ample notification for paper due dates. The special-purpose workshops are nonetheless a great idea; it's not clear to me how much they detract from the main submissions. -- Steve Dyer dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer dyer@arktouros.mit.edu