Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!purdue!decwrl!ucbvax!GATEWAY.MITRE.ORG!barns From: barns@GATEWAY.MITRE.ORG (Bill Barns) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: human factors aspects of echo delay Message-ID: <8904261932.AA00175@gateway.mitre.org> Date: 26 Apr 89 19:32:38 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 25 Someone associated with NASA wrote a paper a few years ago in which he claimed that the key parameter affecting annoyance level associated with full-duplex typein echo delay was the variance and not the mean/median. (I think he was at JPL and I think his name was Callender, but I don't remember the title or where it appeared. Echo delay was not the main subject of the paper but it came up in passing.) I believe this was a qualitative/impressionistic evaluation, not a controlled experiment. His hypothesis would seem plausible given that there is already some mental compensation for neurological timing skews. I don't remember specific numbers but have this impression of having heard that the feedback loop time to the eye is on the order of a few milliseconds, whereas to the toes it is somewhere in the 50+ milliseconds area. This is a distinguishable difference in the brain - if it weren't, auditory direction discrimination wouldn't work. It sounds plausible to me that it would be easier to adapt to a high mean skew than to a high variance of skew in echoing. It might be amusing to speculate on whether the echo-variance annoyance factor is due to the presence of a variance estimator in a human user's brain processing, or to its absence. Both answers seem to have implicit epistemological ramifications in other areas: the former in social sciences, the latter in physical sciences (in which category I place protocol engineering). Bill Barns / barns@gateway.mitre.org