Path: utzoo!dptcdc!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!bbn!oberon!pollux.usc.edu!papa From: papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Used DPAINT [I & II] for sale Message-ID: <16579@oberon.USC.EDU> Date: 17 Apr 89 05:34:45 GMT References: <16386@oberon.USC.EDU> <6789@ecsvax.UUCP> <16404@oberon.USC.EDU> <16958@cup.portal.com> <16459@oberon.USC.EDU> <17050@cup.portal.com> <17146@cup.portal.com> <99107@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> <16558@oberon.USC.EDU> Sender: news@oberon.USC.EDU Reply-To: papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) Organization: Felsina Software, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 48 Now that the issue is winding down, let me finally quote from Mary E. Herbst's book "Software Legal Issues from Microcomputer Users and Developers", which I believe is a condensed version of her Ph.D. thesis. Ms. Herbst's book covers Rights of Software Owners, Software Licensing, Laws affecting Software Users and Developers, Current Court Cases Deciding The Law, Information Needed to Market or Purchase Software, and Protecting Published Software. The bibliography is extensive and includes references to all the relevant court cases. Following are a few excerpts that are relevant to our discussion. The book is Copyright 1987 Mary E. Herbst. Italicized text is shown between *stars*. "Shrink-wrap licenses usually bar the making of backup copies. However, this restraint on alienation is valid only if the transaction is *not* a sale at the retail level. Therefore the real question is whether a "sale" has taken place; the consumer has paid money to receive a piece of software which is then *owned* by the consumer. For this and other reasons shrink-wrap licenses, when tested, have NOT been upheld in court". "The "first sale" doctrine, coupled with traditional Anglo-American legal prejudice against restraints on alienation, suggests that the copyright owner, after the "first sale", has no right to control further disposition of *that copy* by the purchaser. This means that the purchaser can resell or rent out the copy, or otherwise dispose of it, keeping in mind that backup copies must be disposed of in the case of a sale." "A shrink-wrap case, Vault Corp. v. Quaid Software, was brought before a Louisiana judge. The judge refused an injunction against the shrink-wrap license violator statating that the state shrink-wrap legislation was preempted by federal copyright law and thus the shrink-wrap conditions were *unenforceable*. Only Louisiana and Illinois have passed shrink-wrap legislation and Illinois legislators are proposing that their state's shrink-wrap law be repealed. [for these reasons] other state legislatures have no impetus to pass similar laws". "ADAPSO, an industry trade group concerned about the legal side of computer issues, originally favored shrink-wrap laws but has now reversed position". -- end of quote I strongly recommend Ms. Herbst's book to anybody seeking further insights into these issues. -- Marco Papa 'Doc' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Diga!" -- Leo Schwab [quoting Rick Unland] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=