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From: wescott@LNIC1.HPRC.UH.EDU (Andrew M. Wescott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Many X-Window Questions
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Date: 22 Apr 89 17:54:58 GMT
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I have heard much talk about X-Windows in this discussion
group, but I must say I have never worked with X, and I would
like your help getting started.

We have purchased Open Dialogue for our DN 3500s, and of course
now that we have it I need the current version of X for a 3500
running SR 10.1 and BSD4.3.  Okay, so what is the current version,
and where do I get it (ADUS ?) ?  I had heard rumors that Apollo was
bringing out a supported X product for Open Dialogue.  Is this
true?  Should I wait for it?

We also have a DN 10000 running SR 10.0.p and BSD 4.3.  When will
Open Dialogue and a supported X be available for the 10k ?  In
the meantime, is there a non-supported X available?  Also, we
will be installing the 40 plane VS upgrade within a couple of
months...is anyone porting X to this configuration? 

My next to last question centers around crping ("creeping") to
our DN 10000.  All our users on the 3500s crp to the 10000 to
run BIG reservoir simulation codes that would bring a 3500
to its knees.  Problem is ... I have found crp windows to be
very unfriendly except for running remote processes.  I 
always instruct people to have a local window up for editing,
but what about graphics?  Is is smarter to run a local graphics
code synchronously with the simulation on the 10000 with NCS
(i.e. like the ncs_mandelbrot demo) or should we use an X-Window?  .
And since all our codes are color...is X color?  When will X be 3d ?

Okay, my last question may be really dumb, but I have to ask.
Several of our users run from home (on the DN 10000) over 9600 
bps links with reasonable '386/VGA machines.  Is there some kind 
of run-time Open Dialogue interface and X available for these machines.
I seem to remember a run-time Domain Dialogue interface for the
RT, but that doesn't mean I can extrapolate so much.

I'm sorry that I'm soo... ignornant about this, but I've got to
start somewhere.  I just hope someone out there is patient
enough to answer all of these questions.

Sincerely,


Andrew Wescott
University of Houston
Department of Chemical Engineering