Path: utzoo!dptcdc!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!cmcl2!adm!smoke!gwyn From: gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: Disassemblers Message-ID: <10069@smoke.BRL.MIL> Date: 18 Apr 89 13:50:11 GMT References: <8904170836.AA00969@crash.cts.com> <28817@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <8199@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Reply-To: gwyn@brl.arpa (Doug Gwyn) Organization: Ballistic Research Lab (BRL), APG, MD. Lines: 18 In article <8199@boulder.Colorado.EDU> hartkopf@tramp.Colorado.EDU (HARTKOPF JEFFREY M) writes: >I'd also like some opinions on the Orca software (Desktop, /M, Pascal, etc.) >as compared to APW. I'm thinking seriously about purchasing a programming >shell and languages, but I'm not sure which is best. Suggestions? At the moment, if you want to program the IIGS in C, you have to get APW anyway. (I have heard that ByteWorks will be coming out with an ORCA C compiler soon.) Fortunately the ORCA DeskTop environment supports APW C. The editor that comes with APW appears to have been modeled after some brain-dead VAX/VMS or AppleWorks editor and is to my taste practically unusable. The ORCA DeskTop editor is much more reasonable. ORCA Pascal supports source-level debugging under the ORCA DeskTop (as will ORCA C), which may make it the best choice at present. Stay away from TML Pascal, as it violates several Apple IIGS conventions and will in the long run produce more trouble than benefit. Make sure you have a hard disk! APW program development is just too painful on small disks.