Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcvax!ukc!dcl-cs!aber-cs!pcg From: pcg@aber-cs.UUCP (Piercarlo Grandi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.att Subject: Re: adding drives to 3B2 Summary: Cheap hard disks Message-ID: <822@aber-cs.UUCP> Date: 16 Apr 89 15:02:44 GMT Reply-To: pcg@cs.aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) Distribution: eunet,world Organization: Dept of CS, UCW Aberystwyth (Disclaimer: my statements are purely personal) Lines: 47 In article <17482@cisunx.UUCP> jcbst3@unix.cis.pittsburgh.edu (James C. Benz) writes: I am considering adding some hard drives to our 3B2 system here (more correctly, replacing the internal 32MB drives with bigger ones) and I'm having some trouble getting the information I need to make a decision. HH1050 53MB unformatted rll recording $500 HH1060 80MB unformatted rll recording $468 HH1075 75MB unformatted mfm recording $667 HH1095 112MB unformatted rll recording $800 1) has anyone out there used one of these drives with a 3B2 and how hard is it to do? I haven't, but they are standard ST412/ST506, and I would be very surprised to learn they do not work. Note that HH1075 is probably just HH1050, only certified for RLL. Also, note the unformatted -- formatted it will tipically be 25% less, i.e. 40MB, 60MB, 60MB, 70MB. 2) what does rll,mfm mean? Does it matter? MFM is a recording encoding that is most common with ST412/ST506 interfaces; RLL is another one that packs more bits per tracks than MFM, but requires tighter tolerances on the disc unit. If you have a controller that only supports MFM encoding, you do not need any disc certified for RLL. 3) are there any other hard drives we might want to look at for under $1K? I am looking at the same class of drives, for my AT clone. I will buy either the Miniscribe 6085 (28 ms., 71 MB formatted, full height) that you can find for about $600-650 from various mail orders, the Miniscribe 3085 (22 ms., 71MB formatted, half height) that comes for around $700-750, the Micropolis 1325 (28 ms., 72MB formatted, full height) for about $600-650, and for a similar price also the Seagate ST4096 (28 ms., 80MB formatted, full height). Among these my favourite is the Miniscribe 3085 (half height and 22 ms is worth the price difference to me, and as far as I know it is the ONLY half height disk of that capacity with an ST406 interface), while I don't trust the Seagate ST4096, as apparently the intense seeking of a multiuser UNIX system is not well tolerated by it. Unfortunately I have heard that Miniscribe is having serious problems. Too bad, they manufacture a range of very good discs. I may buy a Micropolis instead. -- Piercarlo "Peter" Grandi | ARPA: pcg%cs.aber.ac.uk@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk Dept of CS, UCW Aberystwyth | UUCP: ...!mcvax!ukc!aber-cs!pcg Penglais, Aberystwyth SY23 3BZ, UK | INET: pcg@cs.aber.ac.uk