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From: jgreco@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Joe Greco)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Desterm 128 Questions
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Date: 27 Apr 89 04:37:17 GMT
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In comp.sys.cbm article <2178.24553F5E@isishq.FIDONET.ORG>, izot@f171.n221.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Geoffrey Welsh) wrote:
] > Funny, I had troubles too.  A local system I use constantly with 8N
] > (UWM's Gandalf PACX network, on an MNP line) refused to work with
] > DesTerm and 8N.  I had to switch to 7E.  And DON'T tell me it would
] > not like 8N from any other terminal....  I'm using it right now.  :-?
] 
]   I'm puzzled. I've never had trouble using any framing. Ideas as to 
]source/cure are welcome!

It looked 'zactly like what happens when I try to run Kermit 2.1 at
2400 baud.

]   We're constantly finding new things about the VT-100, and Matt has already 
]made a LOT of modifications to the code.

Please don't forget VTquirks.  An emulator that emulates quirks
correctly is priceless!  (Especially since I've seen software relying
on them, once in a while.)

]   We've heard the menu layer gripe and we've added hot keys and a menu screen 
](activated by the HELP key). The dialing directory now supports the setting of 
]every parameter imaginable, so you can configure your system for word framing, 
]function keys, etc., all to switch in automatically on connect.

Good... I seem to recall having some problems with the dialing
directory.  The real problem is getting un-used to whatever program
you are already used to....  ;-)

] > If Dave ever polishes it up, the
] > only thing DesTerm will offer over it is speed.
] 
]   "If Dave polishes it up"... we are working on DesTerm every day!

As it stands, I am more impressed by DavesTerm 128 than I am by
DesTerm.  Sorry, Geoff.  There is a "feel" that Dave has managed to
give to his program that DesTerm doesn't quite have.  Dave's work on
DavesTerm 128 has been VERY thorough, from what I've seen.  I remember
his DavesTerm 64, which offered 80 columns, a 20? 30?K editable buffer
(with an editor that was nicer than BTPRO), support for the Volks 6480
even....  I only had about 20 minutes to run each program on a 128, so
I can't make any earth shattering revelations.  I did hear that he was
calling a local Apple system and using some kind of Apple terminal
emulation (does Datamedia or ProTerm ring any bells?)....  it also has
a hi-res picture viewer that can apparently load/save/view pictures in
RLE format (perhaps even GIF) and several common Commodore formats.
Another "module" is a disk editor / directory editor.  Somehow that
seems a little irrelevant, but I can already think of times I could
have used it.  I guess a future project will be some kind of "script"
language to replace the BTPRO style macro system he has right now.

In any case, it all matters very little to me since I don't regularly
use a 128.  I tried calling csd4 (here) with both programs, and
neither was able to handle the "strenuous" VT100 emulation, so I went
and loaded up old, reliable, faithful Kermit.

(oh I love throwing kindling on the fire... hehe)
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