Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!pacbell!hoptoad!peora!rtmvax!bilver!jwt!john From: john@jwt.UUCP (John Temples) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Why unix doesn't catch on Message-ID: <258@jwt.UUCP> Date: 14 Apr 89 06:33:29 GMT References: <7697@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Reply-To: john@jwt.UUCP (John Temples) Organization: John W. Temples, III -- Orlando, FL Lines: 27 In article <7697> caromero@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (C. Antonio Romero) writes: >also, keep in mind that the juicy >market both sides in this battle will be going for is not a market of >developers-- therefore in principle (at least) the target customers >won't share your (or my) opinion that not having a good compiler around is >almost inconceivable... Does this mean that Unix is doomed to be used only by techies like us? I don't consider myself a "user"; I use Unix because it's fun to hack on. I suppose most "users" are interested in running things like Lotus 1-2-3, dBase, and WordPerfect -- none of which interest me. Without a very rigidly defined standard, I don't see how such applications can be supported under Unix. A couple of very recent experiences have shaken my confidence in the "386 Unix binary standard." WordPerfect 4.2 for Microport Unix won't run correctly on 386/ix. It appears as though it may just be due to differences in the console driver -- but I guess a binary standard doesn't guarantee a device driver standard. More disturbing was finding that ksh for 386/ix wouldn't run on Microport. Something like a shell doesn't rely on console drivers, so I would expect the binary standard to work. ksh wouldn't even recognize internal commands like "cd". Now that Microport appears to be defunct, I wonder how WordPerfect Corp. feels about entering the 386 Unix market. Will this frighten off other prospective Unix developers like Lotus? I suppose Unix will survive through it all, but can it succeed commercially? -- John Temples - UUCP: {uiucuxc,hoptoad,petsd}!peora!rtmvax!bilver!jwt!john