Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!adt.UUCP!madd From: madd@adt.UUCP (jim frost) Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi Subject: Re: Summary of Re: Experiences with 4D/2xx as timesharing systems? Message-ID: <8904131500.AA20088@adt.uucp> Date: 13 Apr 89 15:00:28 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 26 >> 'tar' is not a backup program, no matter who thinks so. > >Nothing that goes through the filesystem (tar, cpio, bru) is an acceptable >backup program in a large installation. That's not so. It is possible (even pretty easy) to build a very good, very reliable backup program which works through the filesystem. Most of the information which is saved by dump can be gotten through the filesystem; I personally believe that the information which cannot be gotten is also unnecessary. The programs you mentioned are not acceptable because they provide little (if any) redundancy or error-recovery; if anything goes wrong with any part of them, you probably lost the whole backup or you'll be bit-fiddling to get the information that remains. I'm a bit surprised that no one has built The Better Backup Program yet. I expect that what will happen is one of these days I'm going to get fed up with dump and just build one. It almost happened once. Anyone who has any comments or ideas on what a backup program must/should have is encouraged to send them to me at madd@bu-cs.bu.edu; if "one of these days" becomes a reality they will be very useful. jim frost madd@bu-it.bu.edu