Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!pasteur!agate!ucbvax!XEROX.COM!Pahlavan.pasa From: Pahlavan.pasa@XEROX.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.xerox Subject: Re: RIP Message-ID: <890421-104544-1131@Xerox> Date: 21 Apr 89 17:13:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 34 --------------------------------------------- From: hpda!hpcuhb!hp-ses!hpdml93!hpbsla!sritacco @ucbvax.berkeley.edu (Steve_Ritacco) Organization: Hewlett-Packard Boise R & D Lab Subject: Re: RIP "Not having ever had access to either a D machine or the ENVOS software, I am still terribly sad to here that they are gone. Does this mean the end of all the tremendous PARC work on Interlisp, LOOPS, etc. Reading the various research papers that have come out of that group has been very inspiring, and will be missed. If this is the end of ENVOS I at least hope that the tremendous body of software will not be lost or bought and shelved by a competitor. Might I suggest it moving into the public domain or becoming part of the GNU project." ----------------------------------------------- A good suggestion. There are also other alternatives. The demise of ENVOS does not mean the end of PARC's seminal work on InterlispD, LOOPs or the innumerable other AI software tidbits written in Interlisp over the past seventeen years. That culture is too important and productive to be allowed to fade away. There are serious independent efforts to rescue the software in one form or another, ENVOS or no ENVOS. Unfortunately, it is premature to spill out the details now. If you are interested in a new chapter in the Interlisp epic, keep an eye on the AI trade journals in the next few months. Marcel Pahlavan A veteran of Xerox Artificial Intelligence Systems