Path: utzoo!yunexus!ists!sparrms!james From: james@sparrmsuucp (James Buchanan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.xerox Subject: The demise of Envos Keywords: gossip Message-ID: <226@sparrmsuucp> Date: 25 Apr 89 17:09:46 GMT Article-I.D.: sparrmsu.226 Lines: 43 Why isn't this newsgroup just bursting with gossip about the demise of Envos, and the future of us poor folks in the user community? The latest dirt I heard is that Xerox is committed to seeing the Medley product line continue, but not as committed to being the ones doing the continuing. Any takers? Some immediate candidates should be Sun, and maybe TI (that box and this environment would be a great pair). Anybody have any more dirt. What happened to all you guys down a PARC, you must have heard something :-). Anybody have any speculation about whether Envos was doomed from the start. At the launching user group meeting, former Envos Prez Walt Samuelson said that there were 8000 6085/1186 boxes on the market, which leads to a guess of < 1000 as a starting customer base. With Loops a dead-end and Rooms a product which will be slow to catch on (why do I need it?), and the user community already on a free upgrade path, where where they supposed to get the revenue to cover a 40 person staff (40 x $100,000 pp/a = $4M/a), and other costs? What were the expectations about other revenue sources: Medley-S taking off (when it sinks a 3-260?)? Ironically, now that it could run comfortably on a $10K SparcStation1 that seems like a more plausible assumption. (By the way, did they ever finish the port to OS4.x?) Any comments? p.s. We've been having some trouble with the address our mailer deamon is putting on our e-mail. The correct address is the one below, if the header says comething different, please ignore it. James Buchanan james@sparrms.UUCP Spar Aerospace Ltd 1700 Ormont Drive (416) 745-9680 Weston, Ontario, CANADA M9L 2W7 p.p.s My opinions do not reflect the opinions of my employer