Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!decwrl!labrea!polya!Gregorio.Stanford.EDU!ews From: ews@Gregorio.Stanford.EDU (Ed Sznyter) Newsgroups: comp.text Subject: Re: yet another new TeX user aghast at the "TeXBook" !!!!!! Message-ID: <8787@polya.Stanford.EDU> Date: 26 Apr 89 19:25:11 GMT References: <1481@hub.ucsb.edu> <1006@sas.UUCP> <1393@uw-entropy.ms.washington.edu> Sender: USENET News System Reply-To: ews@Pescadero.Stanford.EDU (Ed Sznyter) Organization: Stanford University, Distributed Systems Group Lines: 30 In article <1393@uw-entropy.ms.washington.edu> charlie@mica.stat.washington.edu (Charlie Geyer) writes: > >Now three flames of the TeXbook for not being a primer. > >Knuth's writing is an aquired taste. Perhaps I would have been more >bothered by the TeXbook if I were not so familiar with the Art of >Computer Programming. The TeXbook is a very good book. It was clearly >the right first book to write about TeX. It is a complete reference >manual. It is perhaps the best documentation of a complex computer >system ever written. That it is not suitable for tyros is not even >interesting. The TeXbook is suitable {\em only} for tyros. It is a gradual introduction to an extremely complex program, written to prompt reading from cover to cover. While complete, the information is sorted by the order of complexity. A reference manual must be designed to allow efficent access to the information; certainly these two styles are at odds in the TeXbook. The LaTeX book is written in the same style as the TeXbook; however, the higher-level abstractions implemented reduce the amount of information to a more manageable form, and the index has less of a shotgun pattern. But this is a function of subject, not style. I've used TeX for 11 years. When I want to know something, I usually end up reading latex.tex or ``TeX: The Program.'' The unsuitability (real or imagined) of the TeXbook is of interest to many people.