Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!ogccse!blake!uw-beaver!cornell!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!utastro!hgcjr From: hgcjr@utastro.UUCP (Harold G. Corwin Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.text Subject: Re: yet another new TeX user aghast at the "TeXBook" !!!!!! Summary: TeX and tyros Message-ID: <3847@utastro.UUCP> Date: 27 Apr 89 20:26:48 GMT References: <433@pbseps.UUCP> Organization: U. Texas, Astronomy, Austin, TX Lines: 38 In article <433@pbseps.UUCP>, gary@pbseps.UUCP (Gary Gallaher) writes: > >> That it is not suitable for tyros is not even interesting. > > > What is a "tyro"? > A beginner. Which reminds me of my reaction to the first comment above (take this as a flame if you want): if there were ANY other way to learn TeX, then I would agree. The simple fact is that I know of no other manual for TeX besides the TeXbook. Like so many others who've written here recently, I took one look at it, put it back on the shelf, and turned to LaTeX. For all its faults, the LaTeX manual is much easier for beginners to get something out of than the TeXbook. Don't forget, too, that TeX is a TYPESETTING system. Most of us aren't typesetters, and don't want to be. The fact that TeX has been widely adopted by scientists and mathematicians is due to its flexibility, the large number of operating systems that support it, and the probability that most of the people using it have never had the chance to use an easier typesetting system (read "technical word processor" if you wish). The analogy to programming also seems appropriate to me: write some source code (a document with formatting commands in it), run it through a compiler (TeX), look at the output, and go through the loop until it's right. This is a familiar way of working for most people of my generation (mid-forties), and TeX fits right into our notions of how to work with computers. But easy? TeX? No way. Made any easier using the TeXbook? Only if your job is typesetting and you're being paid to wade through a jungle of lions and dangerous curves. End of flame. OK, that's off my chest. Back to work. Harold Corwin ---------------- -- Harold G. Corwin, Jr. UUCP: {backbonesite}!{noao,cs.utexas.edu}!utastro!hgcjr Internet: hgcjr@astro.as.utexas.edu MaBell: 512-471-7463 Astronomy Dept., RLM 15.308, Univ. of Texas, Austin, TX 78712-1083