Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!elroy!ucla-cs!oberon!randvax!ism780c!ico!clover!rcd From: rcd@ico.ISC.COM (Dick Dunn) Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix,comp.unix.i386 Subject: Re: ESDI vs SCSI (bus speed) Summary: bus speed bs DMA speed Message-ID: <15739@clover.ICO.ISC.COM> Date: 15 Apr 89 03:53:01 GMT References: <98520@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> <5436@lynx.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: Interactive Systems Corp, Boulder, CO Lines: 20 In article <5436@lynx.UUCP>, m5@lynx.uucp (Mike McNally) writes: > In article <98520@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> williamt@sun.UUCP (William A. Turnbow) writes: > > First off you have limiting factors in bus transfer speed. On an > >AT bus I believe this is something like around 4-5 Meg/sec. > > Try 0.5 Mbytes/sec, not 5. The DMA controller on the AT takes a long > time getting on and off the bus... Keep trying. Turnbow said the AT bus, not the DMA controller. The bus is a whole lot faster than 0.5 Mb/s. Hard-disk transfers on AT-style machines are traditionally done with programmed I/O, NOT with DMA (even in the BIOS). The disk controllers have sector buffers, since they have to do the ECC before anything's ready anyway, so it's not like the PIO has to wait on a disk. The business of hand transfer off a disk is probably strange to a lot of people coming from big-machine backgrounds--it certainly was to me, escpecially when I found that the floppy *does* use DMA! But it's not really all that bad...I notice we're running ESDI 63-sector drives at 1:1. -- Dick Dunn UUCP: {ncar,nbires}!ico!rcd (303)449-2870 ...Never offend with style when you can offend with substance.